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Israel attack on Iran

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AGAA4 Fri 13-Jun-25 08:24:30

This is a serious situation. Netanyahu has gone against advice from the US and has attacked Iran.
Iran will retaliate and Israel has closed down today waiting for the attack.
Although the US has distanced itself from this only warning Iran not to target US bases it's inevitable that they may get pulled into this war.

AGAA4 Mon 16-Jun-25 13:01:00

Apart from the focus being taken from the genocide there will be more and more deaths to add to the Natanyahu government's tally. Israelis are being killed too.

AGAA4 Mon 16-Jun-25 13:08:52

Oreo Trump was on BBC news this morning saying "let them fight it out".

Anniebach Mon 16-Jun-25 13:09:03

Quote Whitewavemark2 Mon 16-Jun-25 12:54:19
AGAA4
Maremia
Or it could be a distraction from all of the criticisms about the genocide in Gaza.
I have wondered that too. The plight of the people in Gaza has been overshadowed by this war.
8 people were apparently killed yesterday when queueing for food.

Hamas figures yet again

Claremont Mon 16-Jun-25 13:11:15

The ex UK Ambassador to Iran

www.facebook.com/share/r/1Wp1jm7Rir/

Whitewavemark2 Mon 16-Jun-25 13:18:27

Claremont

The ex UK Ambassador to Iran

www.facebook.com/share/r/1Wp1jm7Rir/

What I am so sorry about is the fact that Israel is acting with impunity. The UN and its members recognise that Israel is acting illegally and yet………

Claremont Mon 16-Jun-25 13:29:06

Anniebach

Quote Whitewavemark2 Mon 16-Jun-25 12:54:19
AGAA4
Maremia
Or it could be a distraction from all of the criticisms about the genocide in Gaza.
I have wondered that too. The plight of the people in Gaza has been overshadowed by this war.
8 people were apparently killed yesterday when queueing for food.

Hamas figures yet again

Hamas figures again.

I am sorry Annie, but this is intolerable. All the deaths, all the pain, all the starving and suffering - and you just reply

'Hamas' - so that's OK. No it is not, it is intolerable. It is illegal, it is a genocide.

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 16-Jun-25 14:09:15

Annie, if the Israeli government allows international journalists in to Gaza , maybe there would be independent figures to consider.
As they do not, then our sources of information are, of course, one sided.

Anniebach Mon 16-Jun-25 14:33:26

Yes , but Jeremy Bowen , BBC journalists?

The BBC has just offered two more apologies
he BBC has issued two separate apologies over antisemitic content published by its Arabic service – including a video that falsely claimed Jews spit on Christians as part of a “holiday ritual” and an article that appeared to equate ancient Jewish rebels with 9/11 suicide bombers.

One of the pieces, a BBC Arabic video report published on 5 October 2023, alleged that religious Jews spit at Christians during Sukkot as part of traditional observance. The caption originally read: “Spitting and assault on Christians and harassment of Muslims on the Jewish holiday.” It was later amended to: “Some observant Jews consider spitting on Christians a holiday ritual.”

ronib Mon 16-Jun-25 14:38:06

My husband says that so much comment these days is a word salad…. I think he has a point.

Allira Mon 16-Jun-25 17:31:36

Maremia

My apologies Allira, as I amended upthread, it was for AGAA4's comment about Trump, 'let them fight it out'. He said the same about Ukraine.

Ok!

Well, it looks as if the word diplomacy has left the dictionary. ☹

AGAA4 Mon 16-Jun-25 17:36:59

It was Trump who said "let them fight it out" on BBC news this morning. Not me!

AGAA4 Mon 16-Jun-25 17:50:55

Sorry! Grumpy old woman syndrome.

Claremont Mon 16-Jun-25 19:30:17

In a book written in 2000 about Rabin's murder, the author asked the question ''With the road to peace lengthy, painful, and hazardous, have the fanatics learned a lesson from the aftermath of Rabin’s murder? Will he be the last victim? Will Israeli democracy survive the agony of shrinking to the tiny size of the pre-1967 boundaries? Will Israeli society develop into a Western democratic and enlightened model, or will it become a reactionary, ethnocentric, xenophobic backwater? ''

we now know the answer. The murderer is still alive and even fathered a son in prison, and believes he is a national hero. The murder of Rabin allowed Netanyahu to become PM. Like the murder of Kennedy, many believe the murderer was just a naïve, misuesed, 'tool'.

Anniebach Mon 16-Jun-25 19:58:49

Will you give title of book and author? thank you

AGAA4 Mon 16-Jun-25 20:08:44

The title is Killing of a King and may be more than one author.
Claremont may know.
Available on Amazon and in bookshops I presume.

Claremont Mon 16-Jun-25 20:10:31

Anniebach

Will you give title of book and author? thank you

Of course. I apologise. I of course intended to, but for all sorts of sad reasons, it has been very hectic here today.

www.sup.org/books/jewish-studies/assassination-yitzhak-rabin

AGAA4 Mon 16-Jun-25 20:55:01

Very interesting Claremont. What he wrote has turned out to come true.

Allira Mon 16-Jun-25 21:12:52

AGAA4

The title is Killing of a King and may be more than one author.
Claremont may know.
Available on Amazon and in bookshops I presume.

Paperback: £139.73 on Amazon 😯

Anniebach Tue 17-Jun-25 06:42:47

George Galloway is on top form on social media, heaven help us, Galloway, Corbyn , Owen Jones ! ! !

Oreo Tue 17-Jun-25 08:38:47

Allira

AGAA4

The title is Killing of a King and may be more than one author.
Claremont may know.
Available on Amazon and in bookshops I presume.

Paperback: £139.73 on Amazon 😯

Will be giving it a miss then😄

Oreo Tue 17-Jun-25 08:39:42

Anniebach

George Galloway is on top form on social media, heaven help us, Galloway, Corbyn , Owen Jones ! ! !

What a trio 😁

Oreo Tue 17-Jun-25 08:41:13

Iran now realising they don’t have the power they imagined they had and many people there will be praying for regime change.

Anniebach Tue 17-Jun-25 08:52:21

The Guardian leading with alleged number of deaths in
Iran and a photograph of a man carrying a young girl, Hamas
has been brilliant in showing how to win the propaganda in wartime

ronib Tue 17-Jun-25 09:04:22

The Daily Mail has Trump joining the war against Iran ….

nanna8 Tue 17-Jun-25 09:20:02

Something awful is about to happen. I really,really pray it doesn’t involve nuclear weapons on the part of the Americans. Warning people to get out is very alarming.