Israel attack on Iran

Oreo

Iran now realising they don’t have the power they imagined they had and many people there will be praying for regime change.

No, they never had the power WE imagined- propped up by Russia, which also doesn't have the power we think it has.

Create a myth- live the myth- watch the myth implode...

AGAA4

Oreo Trump was on BBC news this morning saying "let them fight it out".

So much for ending all the wars in a couple of days...who elected this devil?

The Iranian regime is a disgusting assault on its people and was undoubtedly working in secret towards nuclear weapons. The world owes Israel gratitude for its attacks on the nuclear facilities. I hope they can be completely destroyed and that the regime will be so weakened so as to comply with being non nuclear and subject to thorough inspections. Ultimately I hope this fanatical regime will fall. Unfortunately the Iranians have little experience of democracy.

'alleged number of dearths in Iran'? Annieb, whose data do you believe?

Netanyahu’s ‘justification’ for bombing Iran is that they are ‘on the verge’ of creating nuclear weapons.

Apparently Netanyahu has been claiming that Iran is ‘on the verge’ of creating nuclear weapons for the past 30 years!

Beginning to sound like ‘weapons of mass destruction’ to me🤔

Iran has said many times it wants to kill all Israelis,

Grantanow

The Iranian regime is a disgusting assault on its people and was undoubtedly working in secret towards nuclear weapons. The world owes Israel gratitude for its attacks on the nuclear facilities. I hope they can be completely destroyed and that the regime will be so weakened so as to comply with being non nuclear and subject to thorough inspections. Ultimately I hope this fanatical regime will fall. Unfortunately the Iranians have little experience of democracy.

The Islamic revolution would not have happened if the US hadn't put a puppet Shah in place for the sake of influence and oil in the ME.

Similarly after Trump's election we can see that what people supported was not what they are now getting and certainly you can see how the religious far-right can fool people, and then take away their freedoms.

Maremia

'alleged number of dearths in Iran'? Annieb, whose data do you believe?

None of it because both sides manipulate numbers to suit their own purposes.
In the case of Israel v Iran, Iran is suffering many more losses because they have effectively no air defence, what little they had the Israelis destroyed the first day.

Trump has just said he is not looking for a ceasefire. He's looking for an end. With Trump we can never be sure what he means.

He left the G7 early stating he needed to deal with a ceasefire between Iran and Israel.

He later denied this.

Asked if the US would aid Israel he said they were doing well on their own.

Do we believe that there have been deaths?

Maremia

Do we believe that there have been deaths?

Not sure what you mean?

Last I read there has been over 200 Iranians killed and 20-odd Israelites killed.

The irony though when Israel complained that Iran had been targeting civilian areas!

The cognitive dissonance takes your breath away.

I find it hard to understand Trump - at the start of his presidency, he was unequivocal- America first and the rest of the world could sort itself out without American intervention. And now where is Trump but in the thick of it - giving Iran 60 days and acting against them on the 61st. Unless of course Trump has decided it’s in American interests to force regime change in the Middle East?

WW2, that was in response to David49 saying believe none of it as 'both sides manipulate numbers...'

Don't think anyone understands what Trump is doing. It has been alleged that he goes along with the last person he has spoken to. No way of substantiating that just now. We'll have to wait until the 'reveal' books come out.

keepingquiet

Grantanow

The Iranian regime is a disgusting assault on its people and was undoubtedly working in secret towards nuclear weapons. The world owes Israel gratitude for its attacks on the nuclear facilities. I hope they can be completely destroyed and that the regime will be so weakened so as to comply with being non nuclear and subject to thorough inspections. Ultimately I hope this fanatical regime will fall. Unfortunately the Iranians have little experience of democracy.

The Islamic revolution would not have happened if the US hadn't put a puppet Shah in place for the sake of influence and oil in the ME.

Similarly after Trump's election we can see that what people supported was not what they are now getting and certainly you can see how the religious far-right can fool people, and then take away their freedoms.

I think it was the US and the UK who imposed Reja Shah to protect our oil supplies when we (and the Royal Navy) were quite dependent on them.

I agree the Iranians didn't get what they wanted when the mullahs gained power. Unfortunately, I doubt there will be a revolution now because the regime has eliminated many opponents and the people are unarmed. Regime change would require external intervention.

ronib

I find it hard to understand Trump - at the start of his presidency, he was unequivocal- America first and the rest of the world could sort itself out without American intervention. And now where is Trump but in the thick of it - giving Iran 60 days and acting against them on the 61st. Unless of course Trump has decided it’s in American interests to force regime change in the Middle East?

Point well made!
but Trump wavers so much doesn't he.

Iran like China rules the population with an iron hand so we shouldn’t expect a popular uprising, a lot depends on the attitude of the army in Iran a military takeover is more likely.

Trump will let Israel do the fighting for now hoping that Iran will agree to end the nuclear weapon programme. There is today speculation that if they don’t Trump will use the “Bunker Busting” bombs to destroy the facilities with B2 stealth bombers

Is anyone aware of how the other Middle East States are viewing this escalation between Iran and Israel?

I agree David49 about a popular uprising being unlikely, now that the two countries are warring. The Iranians will just want to stay safe and survive.

Maremia

Is anyone aware of how the other Middle East States are viewing this escalation between Iran and Israel?

Keeping their heads below the parapet, they are all military dictatorships of one kind or another , the Houthies in Yemen are allies, but largely pacified by the US. Egypt and Jordan in particular will welcome non terrorist Iran that is supplying rebels in those countries. I suppose Hezbollah in Lebanon could join in if they have any rockets left, I’m not sure if the Lebanese army has control over all the extremists yet. The Gulf states have no great love of Iran anyway .

Thanks David 49, was also wondering particularly about Saudi Arabia? They were against the Houthis in, was it, Yemen?

David49

Maremia

Is anyone aware of how the other Middle East States are viewing this escalation between Iran and Israel?

Keeping their heads below the parapet, they are all military dictatorships of one kind or another , the Houthies in Yemen are allies, but largely pacified by the US. Egypt and Jordan in particular will welcome non terrorist Iran that is supplying rebels in those countries. I suppose Hezbollah in Lebanon could join in if they have any rockets left, I’m not sure if the Lebanese army has control over all the extremists yet. The Gulf states have no great love of Iran anyway .

I also think that it has a lot to do with the Muslim sect. So Iran is Shia which only represents probably 10% of Muslims in the world.

Everyone else is Sunni.

Whitewavemark2

David49

Maremia

Is anyone aware of how the other Middle East States are viewing this escalation between Iran and Israel?

Keeping their heads below the parapet, they are all military dictatorships of one kind or another , the Houthies in Yemen are allies, but largely pacified by the US. Egypt and Jordan in particular will welcome non terrorist Iran that is supplying rebels in those countries. I suppose Hezbollah in Lebanon could join in if they have any rockets left, I’m not sure if the Lebanese army has control over all the extremists yet. The Gulf states have no great love of Iran anyway .

I also think that it has a lot to do with the Muslim sect. So Iran is Shia which only represents probably 10% of Muslims in the world.

Everyone else is Sunni.

The National - UAE news in English
www.thenationalnews.com/news/mena/2025/06/16/regional-impact-of-israel-iran-war/