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Israel attack on Iran

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AGAA4 Fri 13-Jun-25 08:24:30

This is a serious situation. Netanyahu has gone against advice from the US and has attacked Iran.
Iran will retaliate and Israel has closed down today waiting for the attack.
Although the US has distanced itself from this only warning Iran not to target US bases it's inevitable that they may get pulled into this war.

Claremont Fri 13-Jun-25 21:24:09

Oreo

It seems that those who are pro Palestinian on here are also pro Iran, or anyone who isn’t Israel.
Do they realise how dangerous Iran is? What a threat to the West?Do they fully understand how Iran funds and enables all the Muslim extremists, terrorists?
How terrible they are towards their own people, murdering even teenage girls who don’t cover up?
Israel has done the West a favour as well as taking care of itself.

Don't me so absolutely ridiculous!

We realise both are diabolically dangerous, all three including the USA. Oh and Russia.

Oreo Fri 13-Jun-25 21:26:47

Israel isn’t dangerous to the West, nor is the US.
Iran is, and Russia is certainly.

Maremia Fri 13-Jun-25 21:35:16

Donald Trump isn't dangerous to the West? He is barking mad, at everyone who tries to say 'no' to him.

Claremont Fri 13-Jun-25 21:35:33

Sorry, Israel is currently a massive danger for the whole world, by its actions in Gaza, the West Bank and now Iran.

NONE of us are pro Hamas. NONE of us are pro Iran. NONE.

Maremia Fri 13-Jun-25 21:38:14

I second that Claremont.

Oreo Fri 13-Jun-25 21:43:19

Just anti Israel then?

Oreo Fri 13-Jun-25 21:44:53

It doesn’t matter which country trims the wings of Iran, as long as it’s done and prevents or slows their nuclear ambitions.

Claremont Fri 13-Jun-25 21:46:40

No, not anti Israel. Anti THIS Israel and Netanyahu, anit this terrible one sided war, this genocide- just like so many Israelis and Jews, in Israel and all over the world.

And anti putting Israel, Jews, and all of us- the entire world, by attacking a very dangerous nuclear state like Iran.

Claremont Fri 13-Jun-25 21:49:52

edit- at massive risk, including MAD and the END...

Oreo Fri 13-Jun-25 21:51:51

Iran isn’t a nuclear State yet which is why now is a good time to attack nuclear sites before the uranium enrichment gets any further.Israel are doing us all a favour.Good for them.

Claremont Fri 13-Jun-25 21:59:14

And retired USA Colonel Douglas McGregor disagrees, ad calls Netanyahu a dangerous idiot.

'Iran's arsenal of missiles is enormous. It could flatten Israel in a day, They have the power to go to war. They have however chosen repeatedly to avoid war. Ad I have said it one thousand times, no one in the Middle East is interested in war, except Israel and the USA. That's it.

Oreo Fri 13-Jun-25 22:05:38

Sounds like it’s the retired Colonel who’s an idiot.

valdavi Fri 13-Jun-25 22:15:29

Claremont

No, not anti Israel. Anti THIS Israel and Netanyahu, anit this terrible one sided war, this genocide- just like so many Israelis and Jews, in Israel and all over the world.

And anti putting Israel, Jews, and all of us- the entire world, by attacking a very dangerous nuclear state like Iran.

I would've agreed with that yesterday - Anti Netanyahu and his government.

After their paranoid stupidity overnight on top of the suffering heaped on the powerless Gazans- I'm afraid I am now plain anti-Israel.

No state no matter how unique their circumstances should see themselves as above international law.

Wyllow3 Fri 13-Jun-25 22:27:36

Claremont

No, not anti Israel. Anti THIS Israel and Netanyahu, anit this terrible one sided war, this genocide- just like so many Israelis and Jews, in Israel and all over the world.

And anti putting Israel, Jews, and all of us- the entire world, by attacking a very dangerous nuclear state like Iran.

Thirded. Spot on.

petra Fri 13-Jun-25 22:31:26

Claremont

No, not anti Israel. Anti THIS Israel and Netanyahu, anit this terrible one sided war, this genocide- just like so many Israelis and Jews, in Israel and all over the world.

And anti putting Israel, Jews, and all of us- the entire world, by attacking a very dangerous nuclear state like Iran.

Just to put the record straight: Iran is a wannabe nuclear state. Israel is just making sure it never is.

Wyllow3 Fri 13-Jun-25 22:31:28

valdavi just to say I'd clarify this by saying "the current Israeli regime"

as opposed to other Israeli citizens, many of whom do not support Netanyahu to varying degrees, especially those trying to help get aid into Gaza, return the hostages dead or alive, in the face of Hamas.

Wyllow3 Fri 13-Jun-25 22:33:19

Indeed, Petra. the question is however, why now, not...two months ago, two months later? Its just all too convenient and takes peoples' minds of those starving

Allira Fri 13-Jun-25 23:31:01

LizzieDrip

Allsorts

Netanyahu, a minor player? Words fail.

Precisely Allsorts.

I don’t think the people in Gaza would regard Netanyahu as ‘a minor player’🙈

So you think Netanyahu is a major world leader?

No, he's causing major problems.
There is a difference.

Anniebach Fri 13-Jun-25 23:53:59

Big difference, even though the majority here think Netanyahu
runs the.county armed forces, parliament etc single handed

Allira Fri 13-Jun-25 23:57:21

Anniebach

Big difference, even though the majority here think Netanyahu
runs the.county armed forces, parliament etc single handed

The population of Israel is just about a million more than the population of London.

It's surprising that the leader of such a small country can cause so much trouble, in fact.

Wyllow3 Sat 14-Jun-25 00:51:24

Anniebach

Big difference, even though the majority here think Netanyahu
runs the.county armed forces, parliament etc single handed

I dont think we do, its a shorthand of "Netanyahu and his war cabinet or "the current war cabinet led by Netanyahu.

Its true he's not a "world leader" but causing "major problems" as said above.

Anniebach Sat 14-Jun-25 04:18:30

War cabinet ! , the government who are elected by the country ,
fact, the people were forced to ignore screams for help 7th October 2023 by the government? By one man Netanyahu for him to avoid prosecution in some court of law, this is not true
but no matter for the majority posting

Whitewavemark2 Sat 14-Jun-25 07:07:40

Oreo

Just anti Israel then?

If I was Israeli, I would never support Likud.

I have never supported a right wing political party, because they simply do not chime with my politics.

I have therefore always been critical of Likud and everything a nationalist far right political party it stands for. It’s actions since Oct 23 have been catastrophic both for Israel, the hostages, the Palestinians and world opinion.

I would always have strongly supported the Israeli Labour Party, with its record for working hard to make peace with the Palestinians.

I remember Rabin and Peres who were awarded the Nobel peace prize for their work resulting in the Oslo Accords and a two state solution.

Unfortunately the Labour Party has not done so well over recent years, but it is still a force in Israeli politics and recently took part in a vote to remove Likud, which showed that Netanyahu is on very rocky ground indeed.
“It’s more than ever urgent to replace Netanyahu’s government and specifically this toxic and harmful government,” Labour’s opposition lawmaker Merav Michaeli

However, it is pretty certain that Netanyahu would be voted out at the next election.

I will continue to strongly criticise a government that uses genocide and ethnic cleansing as a political tool as being the most despicable of governments you could ever witness. Other governments throughout the world have successfully dealt with terrorists, whose specific aim was elimination of its existence without the dreadful decision to resort to such death and destruction.

Likud is imo a total failure as a government and should be gone.

karmalady Sat 14-Jun-25 07:30:41

Oreo

Iran isn’t a nuclear State yet which is why now is a good time to attack nuclear sites before the uranium enrichment gets any further.Israel are doing us all a favour.Good for them.

Yes they are helping the west, stopping development of an actual nuclear weapon by unstable Iran

petra Sat 14-Jun-25 08:10:23

Wyllow3

Indeed, Petra. the question is however, why now, not...two months ago, two months later? Its just all too convenient and takes peoples' minds of those starving

I would imagine that the operatives who have been in Iran for over a year saw/ heard something that alerted Israel that Iran were very close ( too close) to having a nuclear bomb.
Any regime that thinks it’s perfectly ok to beat Nika Shakarami to death for removing her head scarf are obviously wired wrong so therefore there’s no way on gods earth that they can have a nuclear bomb.