Trump has attacked Iran

Quote Cossy Wed 25-Jun-25 10:35:11
Anniebach
Iran wanted nuclear weapons before 13th June , as usual criticism falls on Israel
It’s not Israel Annie, it’s Netanyahu, who himself is a danger to his own people, almost as great a danger as Hamas are to Israel and Gaza.

I definitely do not believe one man dictates to the Israeli government, the Israeli army, the Israeli citizens

AGAA4

We are already under threat. The UK government has said we must "prepare for a war scenario" today.

Iran is already active in the UK and we must strengthen our ability to cope with biological warfare among other threats.
Russia has been seen patrolling round our waters checking undersea cables. We can't forget about them.

The attack on Iran will mean that their cells in other countries including the UK will be out for revenge.

I’m sure Iran has got cells in other countries including the UK, hopefully our security services will keep them in check, the big threat is Iran sponsoring global terrorism, does anyone really believe that Iran will become less of a threat if it gets a nuclear weapon.
The tragedy of Gaza would not have happened if Hamas and other terrorists had not been funded by Iran

As I have said before, being anti Netanyahu is not being anti semitic.
As I am saying now, being against Trump, that miltary genius who didn't actually serve his country because of his bone spurs, bombing another country, without consulting Congress, is not being pro-Iranian.
When you don't agree with our discussion points, please make the effort to find proper arguments, as Rinse did with her info dump, and in so doing, convince us to accept your viewpoints, and stop the slurs.
Is name calling against GN rules?

Still reading up on Palestinian history, thanks for those recommendations GNs, but I think the Gaza 'encirclement' began before Hamas came to power.

Hamas has been funded by Netanyahu let's not forget
Why ask if anyone thinks Iran with a nuclear weapon is less of a threat David?
Much damage can be done by the Iranian cells and we know our intelligence services are on their knees through lack of funding. We have to be grateful to them for intercepting huge amounts of threats from Iran and others.

AGAA4

We are already under threat. The UK government has said we must "prepare for a war scenario" today.

Iran is already active in the UK and we must strengthen our ability to cope with biological warfare among other threats.
Russia has been seen patrolling round our waters checking undersea cables. We can't forget about them.

The attack on Iran will mean that their cells in other countries including the UK will be out for revenge.

You’re right, and the UK hasn’t done anything to Iran remember, but this awful regime, along with Russia’s awful regime loathe the West and will do anything they can to harm us.

Hamas, whom no-one supports on here, as far as it is possible to tell, was received funding from Netanyahu. THAT is worth repeating.

Wow! I agree with Oreo's post.

Maremia

Hamas, whom no-one supports on here, as far as it is possible to tell, was received funding from Netanyahu. THAT is worth repeating.

It’s been done to death on here, it received funding as a counter threat to Palestinian Authority and other groups.It was thought that if hamas got what they wanted and ran Gaza then they would be satisfied.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Rocknroll5me

I think Trump is making the right call. No president has surrounded himself with more advisors and he has the ear of many powerful people across the region.
We know his instincts are against war. We know he thinks it’s a waste of resources and somehow everyone has their price and it’s just a matter of doing the best deal. But Iran is a very different culture, with a very religious patriarchal leadership which as we know has reversed all freedom of women. They are fanatics. They would like to destroy Israel. America’s interests are deeply held in Israel. So Trump has to act. For Iran to have nuclear power is unthinkable. Trump is the least warmongering president there could be. But he has listened to his advisors and has tried to take out irans nuclear capability. It is more dangerous to allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons.

I agree. Obama dropped alot of bombs too, without going to Cingress and nobody batted an eye. Congress already passed acts years ago to allow a president to attack Islamic threats when necessary. Trump is within his powers here.

Maremia

Wow! I agree with Oreo's post.

We may even both like Marmite toast 😄

Anniebach

Quote Cossy Wed 25-Jun-25 10:35:11
Anniebach
Iran wanted nuclear weapons before 13th June , as usual criticism falls on Israel
It’s not Israel Annie, it’s Netanyahu, who himself is a danger to his own people, almost as great a danger as Hamas are to Israel and Gaza.

I definitely do not believe one man dictates to the Israeli government, the Israeli army, the Israeli citizens

I do not trust Netanyahu; this from Wikipedia’d..
“Authoritarianism
In the years under Netanyahu's rule, Israel has been experiencing increasing authoritarianism, democratic backsliding, and corruption,[323][324][325][326] in addition to expansionism.[327] During the Gaza War, Israel under Netanyahu had undergone censorship, such as with protests and news media.[328][329][330] Netanyahu's repeated attempts to revamp judicial systems have been accused of being efforts to elevate authoritarianism and protect the prime minister from corruption charges;[324][325] he in turn accused the "leftist Deep state" of attempting to weaponize the justice system against him and the people of Israel.[331] He additionally has spoken populist statements regarding Anti-Arab racism involving narratives of conflict with Jews, in particular of Anti-Palestinianism.[326] Netanyahu's administration in recent years has been tailored towards far-right politics and has been described as the most far-right government in Israeli history. He has also allied his nation with other illiberal, authoritarian leaders from Hungary, Russia, and the United States.”

He is Israel’s longest serving PM, says much to me, what I so cannot accept is , he knew Hamas were to attack Israel 7th October 2023, he moved Israelis nearer to the border into
danger.
I do not accept he started war against Hamas to avoid being
prosecuted for some alleged illegal action,

"On 12 June 2025, Netanyahu’s government survived a vote to dissolve parliament.[320] On 13 June, Netanyahu authorized airstrikes against Iran, marking the beginning of the Iran–Israel war.[321] Within a week, Netanyahu publicly commented on the effects of the war: "Each of us bears a personal cost, and my family has not been exempt", as he cited that it was "the second time that my son Avner has cancelled a wedding due to missile threats".
Coincidence or what?
Imo we are being dragged into a war to save Netanyahu's skin, not protect the Israeli people....

MayBee thank you for saying “in your opinion” , my posts are my opinions,

I learned long ago [when Michael Foot, who I voted for, became leader of the Labour Party] that being a good person yourself can mean that you tend to thing the best of others. I wanted to believe that Russia was wrongly regarded as not being dangerous.

Trump has said the fight between Israel and Iran is like two kids in a playground. Let them fight for a minute then tell them to stop.
Seems like Mr Trump has little respect for either country.

Quote AGAA4 Wed 25-Jun-25 13:23:23
Trump has said the fight between Israel and Iran is like two kids in a playground. Let them fight for a minute then tell them to stop.
Seems like Mr Trump has little respect for either country.

Trump speaks truths ? I cannot agree with you

There’s zero benefit in speaking truths in politics. My best guess is that Trump has convinced the world that there’s no problem with Iran’s concealed uranium. So I expect in a while, there will be another full on attack to destroy said uranium. No point telling the truth in this situation.

ronib

There’s zero benefit in speaking truths in politics. My best guess is that Trump has convinced the world that there’s no problem with Iran’s concealed uranium. So I expect in a while, there will be another full on attack to destroy said uranium. No point telling the truth in this situation.

Precisely. If all is not achieved by this attack, they can just go back in and finish the job. In fact, they are just 'parked up' and waiting imo..

There were a lot of planes from China in Iran possibly bringing weapons. What if they also agreed to take and store the uranium?

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Israël's dirty secret- which is no secret at all. Why was Israël allowed and probably helped by the West, to develop a massive nuclear arsenal, illegally. Why has one country got the right to defence, and another not? The hypocrisy is vast. And I am not pro Iran, and neither am I pro Israël now we have seen what they have done to the Palestinian people recently. and what they plan for their future.

The whole thing shows how nuclear proliferation puts us all massively at risk.

GrannyGravy13

David49

Maremia

Those Trump advisors, have you examined their experience and credentials?

If their intentions were peaceful why would the refuse inspections, why try to hide the factory deep inside a mountain, far too many Iran sympathizers on here, Iran has not been attacked for 30 yrs plus they are pursuing an Islamic fundamentalist campaign funding terrorists world wide, do you really want them to have nuclear weapons.

I agree with you David49

Iran is underhand and dangerous, as are the puppet terrorist they bank roll and arm.

But they didn’t! They have had inspections yearly now for years.

Now confirm that Israel has inspections, or if they have refused.

Double standards here.

Whitewavemark2 I would like to see Israel acknowledge its nuclear capability and join the NPT which would necessitate regular inspections.

Irrespective of the above Iran funds and arms multiple puppet terrorist organisations which kill, injure and inflict terror across the world. I would not trust them to accidentally let a nuclear/dirty bomb get into their hands.

Who is an Iran sympathiser? Stop saying silly things David