Rachel reeves

I also found it shameful of the BBC to continually harp on about her distress. The PM said it was personal matters so it should be left alone. Did we learn NOTHING from the Catherine, Princess of Wales debacle @

imAbat

Mrs. Badenoch was completely within her rights and was merely pointing out that Stsmarmer and his ineptitude was causing her to be miserable. This may or may not have been the case but Reeves should not have been making a public exhibition of herself.....if she wants to be a politician, behave like one!

But she didn't know what was causing the distress! She picked up on somebody at a moment of weakness, stuck the dagger in and turned it.

Badenoch has form. Strangely, it's usually women who are her victims.

If it was personal she should have not been there. If it was Starmer or her job shes not up to it. Wonder what would have happened if a man had broken down sitting there? Its too an important a job to sit there crying while the world looks on. Sorry but that's my opinion, as a woman.

if she wants to be a politician, behave like one
Who do you suggest as Reeves role model inAbat? Kemi Badenoch perhaps, or Boris Johnson, or Corbyn/Abbott?

making an exhibition of herself. Empathy in short supply

Absolutely agree, & the Internet comments on some threads are absolutely vitriolic..seems like everyone's forgotten how to "be kind .

Iam64

*if she wants to be a politician, behave like one *
Who do you suggest as Reeves role model inAbat? Kemi Badenoch perhaps, or Boris Johnson, or Corbyn/Abbott?

making an exhibition of herself. Empathy in short supply

To be totally accurate and fair, empathy was not in abundance on the front bench either side of RR, neither Angela Rayner or the PM noticed her distress and tears.

How can you sit next to someone in such close proximity crying and not notice?

I certainly couldn’t…

Seem to remember Theresa May looking very tearful when she called that election and nearly lost. I think, as women, no matter how in control of our emotions we think we are our hormones are lurking around ready to emerge when we don’t want them to.

GrannyGravy13

Iam64

if she wants to be a politician, behave like one
Who do you suggest as Reeves role model inAbat? Kemi Badenoch perhaps, or Boris Johnson, or Corbyn/Abbott?

making an exhibition of herself. Empathy in short supply

To be totally accurate and fair, empathy was not in abundance on the front bench either side of RR, neither Angela Rayner or the PM noticed her distress and tears.

How can you sit next to someone in such close proximity crying and not notice?

I certainly couldn’t…

I wouldn't expect empathy, but I wouldn't expect total nastiness either.

I don’t usually comment on the Politics posts - I would probably be banned! But the reaction from some GN’s to Rachel Reeves’ tears the other day are absolutely appalling. What happened to kindness, empathy and indeed sisterhood? Badenoch’s behaviour was also dreadful. Reeves obviously felt she had to be there that day - it’s her job. Whatever the problem was (and we don’t need to know) she was overwhelmed.

growstuff I would expect some form of acknowledgement from my peers either side of I was obviously upset and openly crying.

The PM and his deputy didn’t notice sorry I do not buy that explanation.

GrannyGravy13

growstuff I would expect some form of acknowledgement from my peers either side of I was obviously upset and openly crying.

The PM and his deputy didn’t notice sorry I do not buy that explanation.

If that explanation is true, it says a lot about KS and AR, and none of it good.

I understand some of what you say grannygravy but, from clips I’ve seen, Starmer and others were all facing the opposition for obvious reasons. Even had Starmer realised the level of distress what was he to do that didn’t make it worse by drawing more attention and disrupting pmq’s. Awful situation for Reeves , she was over whelmed and if she’d left the bench no doubt would have been criticised

Iam64

I understand some of what you say grannygravy but, from clips I’ve seen, Starmer and others were all facing the opposition for obvious reasons. Even had Starmer realised the level of distress what was he to do that didn’t make it worse by drawing more attention and disrupting pmq’s. Awful situation for Reeves , she was over whelmed and if she’d left the bench no doubt would have been criticised

The MP behind her noticed, he put his hand on her shoulder.

Are you honestly saying that you wouldn’t realise the person sitting next to you literally shoulder to shoulder was distressed and openly crying?

I know I would.

Sitting behind yes, sitting next to when PM on PMQ no, engrossed in what is being said and what will be said surely

GrannyGravy13

Iam64

I understand some of what you say grannygravy but, from clips I’ve seen, Starmer and others were all facing the opposition for obvious reasons. Even had Starmer realised the level of distress what was he to do that didn’t make it worse by drawing more attention and disrupting pmq’s. Awful situation for Reeves , she was over whelmed and if she’d left the bench no doubt would have been criticised

The MP behind her noticed, he put his hand on her shoulder.

Are you honestly saying that you wouldn’t realise the person sitting next to you literally shoulder to shoulder was distressed and openly crying?

I know I would.

I would not have wanted to embarrass her by drawing attention to her distress. Do you really think that would have helped her? She was obviously not herself, but watching PMQs you could see that she recovered her composure to some extent during the session.

She should have quietly left the house …and composed herself! Not professional to sit and weep!

GrannyGravy13

growstuff I would expect some form of acknowledgement from my peers either side of I was obviously upset and openly crying.

The PM and his deputy didn’t notice sorry I do not buy that explanation.

TBH I don't need any explanation. Reeves' distress is none of my business. For all anybody knows, Starmer and Rayner had talked to her beforehand, but she'd said she was OK. It really annoys me that people seem to think that anybody in the public eye is like some kind of character in a soap opera and the public is entitled to speculate about reasons and motivation etc etc.

Badenochs total lack of Empathy and gung ho, inappropriate behaviour reminded me of someone I know with autism.

Glenfinnan

She should have quietly left the house …and composed herself! Not professional to sit and weep!

Since the upset appeared to be of some duration, not entering the house would have been more sensible, unless she knew KS would be annoyed. Though evidently he wouldn’t have noticed.

Its a tough job and she obviously can’t handle it, she should not have attended the house if she felt so ill and fragile.

Allsorts

Its a tough job and she obviously can’t handle it, she should not have attended the house if she felt so ill and fragile.

That’s your view Allsorts.
I don’t agree with you but who knows which of us reached as close as it gets to reality
Ive known ex ellent professionals who have momentarily been overwhelmed but rallied and been even better as a result. Sometimes we don’t acknowledge how ‘ill and fragile’ we feel because we are so used to ignoring, hiding our feelings till they trip us up

Keir Starmer had his back to Rachel Reeves and was concentrating on the questions being asked by the people in front of him. She obviously felt she should make the effort to attend, however she was feeling, and found in the event that her emotions were too much for her - this could happen to anybody. If the cause of her distress was something to do with her job, we'll hear soon enough. If it was personal, as she says, it's none of our business.

Spot on vintage

vintage1950

Keir Starmer had his back to Rachel Reeves and was concentrating on the questions being asked by the people in front of him. She obviously felt she should make the effort to attend, however she was feeling, and found in the event that her emotions were too much for her - this could happen to anybody. If the cause of her distress was something to do with her job, we'll hear soon enough. If it was personal, as she says, it's none of our business.

Hear, hear👏👏👏

If it was personal, as she says, it's none of our business.
So why does this thread exist? Why is everyone commenting?