Israel to conquer Gaza. Part 3

Yes, BabsO3, so many different sorts of articles and newscasts about Gaza now.
Questions raised in Parliament.
A cruise ship barred from a Greek island port.
Other voices being raised.

Has anyone just watched the interview on Sky News with the Israeli representative. I don’t know how the interviewer kept a lid on it ( in fact he was struggling to do so). I’m shaking all over with anger…( this is why I’m having to avoid the news as much as possible…).

maybee I didn’t watch the Sky interview but have listened to others which have made my blood boil. Israel is not reading the room, but it rarely does and frankly it doesn’t really care as long as its best friend stands by them.
I say this from the vantage point of over 30 years close interest in the problem.

MayBee70

Has anyone just watched the interview on Sky News with the Israeli representative. I don’t know how the interviewer kept a lid on it ( in fact he was struggling to do so). I’m shaking all over with anger…( this is why I’m having to avoid the news as much as possible…).

I assume you mean the interview with Mr David Mercer? I have never seen that particular Sky News presenter come close to losing his temper before. Nick Ferrara, one of the most professional presenters on LBC, interviewed a retired, female, IDF colonel this morning who was saying more or less word for word what Mr Mercer was saying i.e. blaming Hamas for withholding food and for shooting the people queuing for food.

Neither interviewee explained why the malnutrition and shooting of people queuing for food and water has only occurred since the US and Israeli backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation has been responsible for delivering aid to Gaza. Neither did they explain why the present chaos surrounding the food distribution did not occur prior to GHF involvement. David Mercer refused to explain why extra security was not being supplied to prevent the present chaos.

Perhaps Hamas chose which food aid to allow into Gaza, they are the government, they are armed

Anniebach

Perhaps Hamas chose which food aid to allow into Gaza, they are the government, they are armed

The people in the queues for food and water aren’t armed though…the ones that are being gunned down….

Quote MayBee70 Wed 23-Jul-25 18:50:45
Anniebach
Perhaps Hamas chose which food aid to allow into Gaza, they are the government, they are armed

The people in the queues for food and water aren’t armed though…the ones that are being gunned down….

Hamas are armed and there are thousands of them in Gaza

My understanding is that it's the IDF who are controlling the amount or in reality, lack of aid entering Gaza and I'm not aware that anyone whose been gunned down while trying to get food and water has been identified as Hamas.

Quote Smileless2012 Wed 23-Jul-25 19:53:50
My understanding is that it's the IDF who are controlling the amount or in reality, lack of aid entering Gaza and I'm not aware that anyone whose been gunned down while trying to get food and water has been identified as Hamas.

Are terrorists identifiable ? Do they wear uniforms ?

Well Anniebach, I guess they must be identifiable as the IDF have given the presence of Hamas operatives as the reason for attack after attack throughout this whole sorry business.

Quote lixy Wed 23-Jul-25 20:32:49
Well Anniebach, I guess they must be identifiable as the IDF have given the presence of Hamas operatives as the reason for attack after attack throughout this whole sorry business.

Thousands been identified?

Anniebach ‘thousands been identified’

and ‘eliminated’ through missions completed with pinpoint accuracy according to the Israeli reporting - in tunnels, under hospitals, in schools and refugee camps, and now in queues for food and water.
If the IDF and its political masters are so sure then they must be able to identify Hamas members somehow, through their formidable intelligence gathering system.

I find it strange that the IDF were able to target commanders in the Iranian Republican guard and assassinate them, and Hezbollah senior members but they can’t kill senior Hamas members without blowing up refugee camps and civilian buildings until Gaza looks like a moon scape. The thing is that the IDF have targeted Hamas senior members and taken them out but they won’t stop until everything in Gaza is destroyed and all the Palestinians are gone, either dead or ‘relocated’.
They could have targeted Hamas senior members within the first year, called a ceasefire to release all hostages, and made the first difficult steps towards a peace process.
But that was never Netanyahus sim.

Correction ‘aim’

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Are terrorists identifiable? Do they wear uniforms? what are you saying Annie, that the IDF opens fire on men, women and children queuing for food just in case Hamas terrorists are there, because they don't actually know as they're unable to identify them?

The charming Mr Mercer said in so many words that there is no famine in Gaza, just famine of the truth. At least the retired colonel acknowledged that there is famine in Gaza, there was just a difference of opinion between her and Nick Ferrari as to where the blame lies.

Quote Smileless2012 Wed 23-Jul-25 21:11:22
Are terrorists identifiable? Do they wear uniforms? what are you saying Annie, that the IDF opens fire on men, women and children queuing for food just in case Hamas terrorists are there, because they don't actually know as they're unable to identify them?

I question how many with guns are Hamas

Babs03
Israeli secret operatives were in Iran for at least a year before they killed those men. Plus the fact that they weren’t hiding in underground tunnels or mixing with the hoi polloi.
Unlike in Gaza where Hamas are doing exactly that.

I question how many with guns are Hamas
Hamas are wearing IDF uniforms?

Quote Parsley3 Wed 23-Jul-25 21:29:04
I question how many with guns are Hamas
Hamas are wearing IDF uniforms?

Only Hamas supporters I have seen in videos are the men who
cheered and mocked at the dead body of a female hostage who was driven around Gaza and the vast crowd of men who jeered
and mocked the released hostages earlier this year, no IDF uniforms

So how does the IDF defends its claims that it only targets Hamas, if it doesn't know who they are?

Quote growstuff Wed 23-Jul-25 21:51:12
So how does the IDF defends its claims that it only targets Hamas, if it doesn't know who they are?

Have they said they target women and children ? No,, but Hamas does hide in hospitals and schools, fact

Yesterday I spent away from the news etc, and have only opened up the BBC app. This morning.

I have never seen anything like it.

Every single item on it’s home page is about the atrocities taking place in Gaza.

It is as if the veiled has been lifted from their eyes. The flood gates are at long last opened.

Anniebach

Quote growstuff Wed 23-Jul-25 21:51:12
So how does the IDF defends its claims that it only targets Hamas, if it doesn't know who they are?

Have they said they target women and children ? No,, but Hamas does hide in hospitals and schools, fact

I didn't write that they target women and children, but the IDF claims that it targets Hamas - it doesn't. The IDF has no idea whether there are any Hamas operatives in the specific hospitals and schools it has bombed. It's "carpet bombing" and it just seems to hope that some of the killed were Hamas.