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Israel to conquer Gaza. Part 3

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Claremont Fri 04-Jul-25 18:09:30

because tragically it is not over.

AGAA4 Thu 24-Jul-25 16:59:11

petra

Maremia
Has your position of thread moderator been sanctioned by HQ? If yes I will drop them a line asking why we weren’t informed.
If you have taken it upon yourself without permission then you can just do one.
That’s my polite response to you. I think you can guess what I wanted to post.

Most aggressive post I've seen in a long time. Telling someone to "do one" and then getting applause!
Shows who the not so passive aggressive are on here.

Oreo Thu 24-Jul-25 17:03:29

Maremia

Post away Petra. I am as usual interested to read your thoughts.
So, let's go back to your post which said,
'Hamas has said on numerous ocassions that it will destroy Israel.'
I believe you about that, and I agree that a nation state has a right to defend itself,
however
my point is,
threats from a terrorist organisation like Hamas, are not threats from a whole population.
Are you saying that Palestinians are all Hamas?
Even the children and the Christians? Is that your belief?
It is not mine,
and threats and atrocities by a terrorist organisation,
which also causes fear among its own people,
do not ever justify in any way shape or form the war crimes and genocide that is being perpetrated on the people of Palestine.
What Hamas has said, the evil that Hamas has done does not justify genocide.
Luckily more folk in the world are now coming round to that way of thinking.
Hope that clarifies my response to your original statement.

The thing is….hamas were the government in Gaza, not just a rebel terrorist group!

Oreo Thu 24-Jul-25 17:04:13

And many in Gaza were happy to support them.

Maremia Thu 24-Jul-25 17:07:21

Your evidence please?

AGAA4 Thu 24-Jul-25 17:08:11

Oreo

And many in Gaza were happy to support them.

So you agree all those people should be killed because in the beginning some may have supported Hamas?

Maremia Thu 24-Jul-25 17:08:44

Putin is government in Russia
Hitler was government in Germany.
Should we have committed genocide on the german people?

Maremia Thu 24-Jul-25 17:09:24

The Christians were happy to support them?

Oreo Thu 24-Jul-25 17:12:18

Maremia

Your evidence please?

That hamas was the government there?
If you mean support only, then they were voted in by the people.In the last few years no doubt their support has dwindled.

Oreo Thu 24-Jul-25 17:13:35

Maremia

Putin is government in Russia
Hitler was government in Germany.
Should we have committed genocide on the german people?

This country bombed the hell out of Germany and they did the same here.

Oreo Thu 24-Jul-25 17:14:15

AGAA4

Oreo

And many in Gaza were happy to support them.

So you agree all those people should be killed because in the beginning some may have supported Hamas?

Your words only, not mine.

Maremia Thu 24-Jul-25 17:14:46

Yes, reciprocal bombing. Are the Palestinians bombing Israel?

Anniebach Thu 24-Jul-25 17:15:44

Sunni Islam is a major religion in Palestine, being the religion of the majority of the Palestinian population. Muslims comprise 85% of the population of the West Bank, when including Israeli settlers,[1] and 99% of the population of the Gaza Strip.[2] The largest denomination among Palestinian Muslims are Sunnis, comprising 85% of the total Muslim population.

Protection of Christians in Gaza !

Oreo Thu 24-Jul-25 17:16:51

Oh they would if they could, the missiles into Israel from Gaza and Lebanon were constant until relatively recently.

Maremia Thu 24-Jul-25 17:17:03

'And many in Gaza were happy to support them,'
Just to be clear, you don't mean that statement as a justification for the genocide? It's just a wee 'throw into the mix'?

Maremia Thu 24-Jul-25 17:18:00

Pardon? Annieb not sure what your post means.

Maremia Thu 24-Jul-25 17:22:12

Yes, and if there were rocket sites in Gaza, then they would then be justified targets. I think most folk would agree in that.
But if not, they will say.
But I am not talking about rocket sites, am I?
Internation Law is not concerned about the targeting of rocket sites, are they?
Netanyahu is not being accused of war crimes because of the targetting of tocket sites is he?
Why is Netanyahu being accused of war crimes, by the way?

Oreo Thu 24-Jul-25 17:24:14

I think you’re tying yourself up in wee knots Maremia

Maremia Thu 24-Jul-25 17:24:59

No Oreo, but thanks for your reply.
No I was looking for evidence that many in Palestine supported the Hamas atrocities that started all of this.

Maremia Thu 24-Jul-25 17:27:29

Oh well done Oreo, good try, but it does not answer my questions. Gives you time think of some, so fair enough.
Have a good think.
I can wait.

Grantanow Thu 24-Jul-25 17:28:54

If Israel were to withdraw as a result of world pressure Hamas would have no incentive to negotiate and we know Hamas cares nothing for Palestinian live. A NATO study found that:

Quote

'Hamas’ most common uses of human shields include:

„ Firing rockets, artillery, and mortars from or in proximity to heavily populated civilian areas, often from or
near facilities which should be protected according to the Geneva Convention (e.g. schools, hospitals,
or mosques).

„ Locating military or security-related infrastructures such as HQs, bases, armouries, access routes,
or defensive positions within or in proximity to civilian areas.

„ Protecting terrorists’ houses and military facilities, or rescuing terrorists who were besieged or
warned by the IDF

„ Combating the IDF from or in proximity to residential and commercial areas, including using civilians for
intelligence gathering missions.'

Maremia Thu 24-Jul-25 17:52:31

Thanks for your detailed post, but the IDF does not have to withdraw.
They just have to act within the Geneva Convention in how they deal with the situation.
Stopping food and other aid into Gaza is not an acceptable act of war.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 24-Jul-25 17:59:20

If Netanyahu wishes, every child in Gaza could have full tummies by the morning.

Netanyahu, however is a criminal, who will eventually answer, to the dead children, in court.

Smileless2012 Thu 24-Jul-25 18:04:23

They just have to act within the Geneva Convention in how they deal with the situation exactly Maremia and because they're not, they're committing war crimes.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 24-Jul-25 18:10:55

I was absolutely appalled to listen to the 6pm news.

We were told how, Netanyahu has it entirely within his power to feed those children.

That in fact a few months ago there was an outbreak of polio amongst the Gaza children, and within a week or so Netanyahu had every child vaccinated in Gaza.

Reason?

Because he didn’t want the virus to spread to Israeli children.

What an evil man he is.

Grantanow Thu 24-Jul-25 18:17:15

Maremia

Thanks for your detailed post, but the IDF does not have to withdraw.
They just have to act within the Geneva Convention in how they deal with the situation.
Stopping food and other aid into Gaza is not an acceptable act of war.

There is a large quantity of food aid rotting in Gaza because the UN refuses to work with the GHF.

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