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Resident (Junior) Doctors vote to strike

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GrannyGravy13 Thu 10-Jul-25 08:44:53

Resident doctors will walk out at 7am on 25th July and not return until 7am five days later.

They are asking for a 29% pay rise.

The BMA blame the Government for not considering an increase on the offered 5.4% pay rise.

eazybee Wed 30-Jul-25 15:46:45

If a locum is being paid £150 an hour he should be capable of performing all procedures.
In my opinion it is extremely unprofessional of a doctor to go on strike.

Casdon Wed 30-Jul-25 17:05:01

eazybee

If a locum is being paid £150 an hour he should be capable of performing all procedures.
In my opinion it is extremely unprofessional of a doctor to go on strike.

There is no doctor anywhere in the world who can perform all procedures, that is a really uninformed thing to say. Cancer treatment is a specialist area, as are other services, and they all involve a large number of procedures, often unique to that specialty.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 30-Jul-25 17:50:47

The nurse may well have been unprofessional discussing locum doctor pay scales during the strike. However it certainly shines a light doesn’t it? Locum rates for doctors are really high. Some doctors choose less contacted hours per week (nice pensions though in time 70% of their salary in annual pension) and then pick up very well paid locum rates on an ad hoc basis with an agency to suit them.

foxie48 Wed 30-Jul-25 17:51:58

Nurses do help newly qualified doctors to do things that an experienced nurse would find easy eg inserting cannulas in sick or elderly patients can be quite tricky and students will have had little experience of doing that (if any). An experienced nurse will often help a young doctor gain experience, it is what happens in medicine. See one, do one, teach one but sometimes you have to see something several times and be helped several times in order to gain confidence and expertise. Most nurses rather enjoy helping the young doctors and wouldn't consider it onerous.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 30-Jul-25 17:54:04

I don’t think that nurse found it onerous. She didn’t agree with the strike though. 🤷‍♀️
Many staff didn’t.

ftm420 Wed 30-Jul-25 18:13:13

Posted on another thread, but more relevant to this one?

I spoke to my uncle last night, who is a retired hospital administrator. He has been in the nhs all his working life and despairs at the junior doctors. They earn a lot of money already. You can't say they want 22%+ in order to make up for previous years. No-one (& I include myself, having worked for a local council for nearly 10 years) in the public sector has had anywhere near that kind of pay rise for years. If the government caves in, then everyone else will want the same.

Selfish and unwarranted.

foxie48 Wed 30-Jul-25 19:42:19

FGT I don't support the strike but that doesn't mean I don't think the resident doctors have a justified case. I don't think it's fair to denigrate all doctors because some choose to strike. I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about how doctors are trained, what is a fair expectation of them and how working in the NHS has changed over the past 10 or so years.

foxie48 Wed 30-Jul-25 19:45:40

ftm420 How much debt did you have when you started work and how many times did you have to move to gain the training you needed to progress? Also, how many employers could you have moved to if you were unhappy with your pay and working conditions? If others want a pay increase, perhaps it's because they are also underpaid?