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Reform MP doesn't approve of female police patrolling without a male colleague

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MollyNew Tue 22-Jul-25 20:54:11

Sarah Pochin, their justice spokesperson has said that female police officers should only patrol with a "big, strapping male" officer! What century does this woman live in?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 22-Jul-25 20:57:45

To be honest, with some of the scumbags on our streets I agree.

It goes against my feminist beliefs, but there is little to none respect for the police, let alone female police.

Galaxy Tue 22-Jul-25 21:02:29

It is quite a complex question. There are numerous situations where I would argue that 2 police women would be much more beneficial than a male one. So I could see that there are also situations where a male presence would be useful.

MaizieD Tue 22-Jul-25 21:04:50

There might be a problem finding enough 'big strapping' male officers to patrol with them. In my experience male police officers come in all shapes and sizes and are frequently not particularly 'strapping' or big.

OTOH, aren't female officers trained in self defence? If they're not, they should be. That would sort out a lot of problems.

Mt61 Tue 22-Jul-25 21:11:40

Safer in twos, whether a male/female, or two females. I wouldn’t want to do a beat on my own.

Allira Tue 22-Jul-25 21:28:01

Mt61

Safer in twos, whether a male/female, or two females. I wouldn’t want to do a beat on my own.

I agree.

Patrolling in twos.

Redhead56 Tue 22-Jul-25 23:01:15

Our police station closed nearly twenty years ago. No police officers have been on the beat since then they don’t exist anymore

nanna8 Wed 23-Jul-25 01:24:13

She is right. Sadly. That or give them a gun like most police forces in the world.

David49 Wed 23-Jul-25 08:29:51

I agree in general that female officers are at more risk of assault, however, I was present at an incident where a big strapping male and female officer attended.

The offender was drunk and causing trouble, the female officer was trying to get him to calm down and go home, “ if you don’t I’m going to arrest you”, he replied, “ I’d like to see you try”, 2 seconds later he was flat on his face on the floor with handcuffs on.

Dont assume all female officers are pussycats.

Toetoe Wed 23-Jul-25 08:39:13

I believe they should always work in pairs. Male or female . The antisocial disrespectful behavior nowadays can be shocking . What has happened to this country . Some people live by violence and causing fear . I wouldn't want my granchildren to be a member of the police force . I respect those that are .

1ammrsp Wed 23-Jul-25 08:51:04

With so much disrespect for authority these days, I think it’s imperative that police patrol in pairs, even when they are in a car. Attending incidents they always should have additional support with them.
As for the male/female combo well that’s a difficult one. Some women are more than capable of taking a man down with the correct training. Would the fact that a male is required to partner a female diminish the status of the female officer? The thin edge of the wedge, in my opinion.

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 23-Jul-25 08:56:37

In some situations, a female police officer can defuse a situation - not all, of course.
Some belligerent men feel they must not lose face when confronted by a male officer so are obliged to escalate the problem.
Why are Reform talking about this? They seem to have a habit of throwing out random thoughts each week, mostly unconnected to the life of their constituents. How is Clacton just now, Mr Farage?

madeleine45 Wed 23-Jul-25 09:01:22

The reform party are able at the moment to talk any rubbish and promise solutions to everything that happens, because they are NOT in power. Personally I would take no notice of them, as Farage and co talk a load of rubbish, exposing their own appalling attitudes on many things, but hopefully, however much we dislike some policies of other parties, we could not be so stupid as to have Reform as any part of the government!!!

Personally as a woman of 5ft 6" tall and 80 years of age, I have had no problem sorting things out over the years. Mind you I am a teacher and lecturer, and find that the look and tone of voice is usually all this is needed to deal with situations and no need for swearing either!!

AGAA4 Wed 23-Jul-25 09:04:28

Police should never patrol alone. Men or women. I well remember many years ago due to staff shortages a young female officer out alone was set on by a big strapping male. A member of the public called 999 and my DH and another officer from a different station went to her aid.
The poor police woman had been beaten so badly that she spent months in hospital.
She was 5ft 5" and weighed 9 stone. The attacker was a foot taller and 16 stone. She didn't stand a chance. Even with training a woman is unlikely to be able to overcome that size of male despite what is portrayed in TV series.
My DH and the other officer did grapple with him and he was arrested.

Flippinheck Wed 23-Jul-25 09:28:24

madeleine45

The reform party are able at the moment to talk any rubbish and promise solutions to everything that happens, because they are NOT in power. Personally I would take no notice of them, as Farage and co talk a load of rubbish, exposing their own appalling attitudes on many things, but hopefully, however much we dislike some policies of other parties, we could not be so stupid as to have Reform as any part of the government!!!

Personally as a woman of 5ft 6" tall and 80 years of age, I have had no problem sorting things out over the years. Mind you I am a teacher and lecturer, and find that the look and tone of voice is usually all this is needed to deal with situations and no need for swearing either!!

I couldn’t agree more. Sarah Pochin was on the politics show on BBC2 on Monday this week, and has been on there several times since being elected. She comes over as very angry and aggressive, attempting to talk over anyone with another point of view and promoting simplistic views on everything. I am astounded that she was ever voted in.
As for your second point, my dil, is a secondary school teacher who still loves her job and has few problems with discipline. She definitely has the tone of voice and the look that instantly pulls her children back into line, skills that are disappearing because of soft parenting.

Casdon Wed 23-Jul-25 10:42:33

I don’t care what a newbie non government MP says about policing. My own views would be equally well informed. I’m much more interested in what changes are being made, and will be made in the next four years at the moment.

eazybee Wed 23-Jul-25 10:47:28

Having seen the way the polic women were attacked at Manchester Airport while in the company of big strapping males, I am inclined to agree; what could have happened to them if there had not been other policemen there I dread to think. Usually the presence of police women calms a violent behaviour, or so I was told. Now, not so much.

AGAA4 Wed 23-Jul-25 10:49:23

I doubt if a hard stare and tone of voice would be enough to deter criminals!

MaizieD Wed 23-Jul-25 11:17:15

AGAA4

I doubt if a hard stare and tone of voice would be enough to deter criminals!

I don't know. I have seen a few possibly potential criminals in a school situation being quelled by the hard stare. It can be quite traumatic for them...

A memory of this could well be revived if they were on the receiving end of the same technique years later grin

nanna8 Wed 23-Jul-25 11:18:59

One of my cousins was a London policewoman in the 1990s. It was an awful job and after a few years she gave up because she didn’t want her children to grow up motherless. I don’t think things have improved. Of course they should work in pairs. There are a lot of scumbags out there.

Sarnia Wed 23-Jul-25 12:13:38

It doesn't need to be a male officer but they most certainly need to patrol in pairs.
A family member is a serving police officer who when arresting a shoplifter on their own had to rely on members of the public to restrain the girlfriend from jabbing them in the neck with a broken bottle.

Visgir1 Wed 23-Jul-25 12:27:31

My Goddaughter is a Police Woman. Tiny little thing but as tough as old boots. Asking her if she was ever concerned about being in a difficult situation, she's said she's not overly worried as they have been trained to handle themselves. She reckons two female offices are quite capable of handling problems plus they are more likely to assess and call in for back up if its escalates.
These Women who are in the Police Force are not shrinking violets.

Delila Wed 23-Jul-25 18:35:31

nanna8

She is right. Sadly. That or give them a gun like most police forces in the world.

No way.

LizzieDrip Wed 23-Jul-25 18:48:38

nanna8

She is right. Sadly. That or give them a gun like most police forces in the world.

Absolutely no guns!!!

Mt61 Wed 23-Jul-25 22:39:16

I remember back in the day, as a girl, visiting Glasgow the police would be really tall, over 6ft, most wore a tash. Mum said they recruited a lot from the highlands- there would be no messing.
My dad, 15, was taken into one of those police boxes, & kneed in the privates for riding his bike with no lights.

Now cops are all shapes & sizes, some, I don’t how they could chase down a burglar, some are really unfit. So think it’s much safer in twos.