Israel Committing War Crimes - Israel - Gaza Part 4

I completely disagree.

I am reminded of

“don’t Mention The War”. Fawlty Towers Basil

Trying to shut it down? shut what down Oreo? A thread to discuss antisemitism isn't shutting down a discussion, it's opening one unless you prefer it be constantly brought up here, to try and shut down any criticism of Israels behaviour in Gaza and the West Bank.

The reality imo is, anti semitism is integral to discussions about Israel - Gaza

Nothing to do with shutting down criticism of Israel,
much to do with reactions of other countries reactions to
Israel and Russia

And because it gets muddled into the way Israel is conducting itself, it never gets properly recognised or discussed.

Which in turn leads you oreo and annie to suggest that there is anti-semitism on this thread when in point of fact it is the exact opposite. But you both remain unhappy because it isn’t discussed and the reason?

Look at the threads title.

That tells you all you need to know. And why people are protesting all over the world.

Smileless2012

^Trying to shut it down?^ shut what down Oreo? A thread to discuss antisemitism isn't shutting down a discussion, it's opening one unless you prefer it be constantly brought up here, to try and shut down any criticism of Israels behaviour in Gaza and the West Bank.

Trying to get antisemitism off the discussion here is trying to shut it down.
Where have I said that you shouldn’t discuss the behaviour or rhetoric of the Israeli government?
I have repeatedly said I very much abhor the settler violence in the West Bank and that the GHF isn’t working and lorries of aid should have been resumed before now.

Iam64

The reality imo is, anti semitism is integral to discussions about Israel - Gaza

And if you wish to include anti-semtism you must also include Islamaphobia. And where does that get us.

Absolutely nowhere.

Quote Whitewavemark2 Mon 28-Jul-25 10:16:35
Iam64
The reality imo is, anti semitism is integral to discussions about Israel - Gaza
And if you wish to include anti-semtism you must also include Islamaphobia. And where does that get us.

Absolutely nowhere.

No comparison,

Some people are on the marches for entirely the wrong reasons and I think you know that whitewavemark2 since they have been protesting since a few days after the October atrocities by hamas.
I can’t know about posters on here or other forums but I do know that for a lot of people they simply cannot or won’t distinguish between Jews everywhere and Israel.

Iam64

The reality imo is, anti semitism is integral to discussions about Israel - Gaza

Thank you.

Oreo

Some people are on the marches for entirely the wrong reasons and I think you know that whitewavemark2 since they have been protesting since a few days after the October atrocities by hamas.
I can’t know about posters on here or other forums but I do know that for a lot of people they simply cannot or won’t distinguish between Jews everywhere and Israel.

Of course there are!!

And yes there are people unable to distinguish between a state, its government and its population.

But I am assuming that this is not the case on these threads, which is why I urge people not to muddle the two and become like the unthinking.

Why were graves of Jews in UK being attacked before 7th October 2023 and increased after 7th October 2023

Seems this thread has been successfully derailed now. Suffering of Jews through antisemitism or genocide of the Gazan people.
One seems to be more immediate to me than the other at this time.

It isn’t genocide.

Nor is the thread derailed.

Oreo

Maremia
Posters now are very careful in their wording of posts as they know that anything that crosses a line will be deleted.

Of course, and quie rightly so (both).

Ignore genocide, the Israel/Gaza war is now being called The
Holocaust

AGAA4

Seems this thread has been successfully derailed now. Suffering of Jews through antisemitism or genocide of the Gazan people.
One seems to be more immediate to me than the other at this time.

Yes sorry😬.

I am actually dashing around in the middle of housework and then out all afternoon.

So will sign off now.

What's happening in Gaza is genocide Oreo and AGA is right, this thread is being derailed.

The thread is to discuss war crimes being committed by Israel in Gaza.

Is part of the problem, if there is one, on this thread, that some posters are very/more concerned about all the rising issues about antisemitism, and appear to suggest that to stop this rising hatred we should not be criticizing Netanyahu and his actions?
So, to stop anti semitism in the outside world, we must stop here discussing Gaza and ways to help those people.?
Sorry if that seems muddled. If so, could someone unpick it

Iam64

The reality imo is, anti semitism is integral to discussions about Israel - Gaza

Yes, I agree, and can be part of a letter. You can't say everything in an effective letter, its not a thesis:

But working with those in the Jewish communities who are not happy with Netanyahu definitely need to be in a letter, (and protection, as I suggested above) after Annie's pertinent point.

IMO that is the problem Maremia. To say that rising antisemitism is concerning would be an understatement but that should not be used to attempt to shut down any criticism of Israels war crimes.

I already have unpicked it Maremia
You can discuss the Gaza situation to your hearts content but you have to admit that in the real world if not on here there is antisemitism inextricably linked by very many people with it.
That’s all.

So, if there is no anti semitism on these threads, then what is the problem with doing what many Jews around the world are doing and having a care for the people of Gaza against relentless hostilities?