Israel Committing War Crimes - Israel - Gaza Part 4

"the parents have no respect
for their dead children?"

The parents are grieving the loss of a child as any parent would do. They are not responsible for what other people post in the media. That is my answer to your question.

We are in no position to judge these people.

Who knows what you would do if you were starving, you are watching your children starve to death, you have a dead baby. You have lost absolutely everything.

Every time you go for aid you are in high danger of being killed.

Maybe you would sell a picture of your baby (if indeed that it happening - it is ONLY supposition) in order to get money to try to feed your living children.

What indignities are being heaped on these people.

How DARE we judge!

It's more likely that Hamas takes pictures to post on the internet. The mothers wouldn't dare to complain xxx

I am astonished that a poster has asked if the parents have any respect for their dead children. What a question.

Quote Parsley3 Thu 31-Jul-25 10:21:47
I am astonished that a poster has asked if the parents have any respect for their dead children. What a question.

I asked the question after a post said parents are not posting
photographs of their dead children,

AGAA4

It's more likely that Hamas takes pictures to post on the internet. The mothers wouldn't dare to complain xxx

This. We need journalists allowed to do their work, to report and photograph, to film. I find the refusal to allow this disgusting shocking and morec

I know what I would like to see happen in Gaza

1. Hamas to return all remaining live hostsges and the bodies of those who are dead.

2. Hamas to surrender, unconditionally.

3. Food and medical aid allowed in and distributed fairly.

4. Independent Aid agencies allowed in.

5. Independent journalists allowed in.

Quote Iam64 Thu 31-Jul-25 10:40:53
AGAA4
It's more likely that Hamas takes pictures to post on the internet. The mothers wouldn't dare to complain xxx
This. We need journalists allowed to do their work, to report and photograph, to film. I find the refusal to allow this disgusting shocking and more

You have no problem with the world media, you don’t believe
politics would come into it ?

GrannyGravy13

I know what I would like to see happen in Gaza

1. Hamas to return all remaining live hostsges and the bodies of those who are dead.

2. Hamas to surrender, unconditionally.

3. Food and medical aid allowed in and distributed fairly.

4. Independent Aid agencies allowed in.

5. Independent journalists allowed in.

Praying for numbers 1 and
3 on your list.
The others unlikely.
As another poster said Hamas aren't afraid to die for their cause and will fight on.
I believe Israel wants to continue the fight too so allowing independent journalists is unlikely to happen.

Does Israel have a choice ?

The 'Truth' in these situations is very elusive. Suppose journalists are let in to roam freely. Who guards them? Who selects the areas they go to? Who watches and listens to whom they speak? Who is friend and who is foe? My experience of disputes like this anywhere in the world is that 'The Truth' or best version of it takes decades to emerge and only when people feel confident, and safe, to tell it. By all means let journalists take the risk but don't necessarily expect the truth. 'The Truth' in situations like this is usually what others want you to hear.

👏👏👏 Devorgilla their truth, our truth ——-the truth !

For number three on gg13 s list number 4 needs to happen, because any food of which there has been precious little is not being fairly distributed by the GHF

People seem to be getting engrossed with smaller details without looking at the bigger picture, is called muddying the waters.
The fact is everyone knows now that the IDF under Netanyahu and extreme right cronies are committing war crimes/genocide, with their latest weapon of choice being starvation.

Quote Babs03 Thu 31-Jul-25 12:32:11
People seem to be getting engrossed with smaller details without looking at the bigger picture, is called muddying the waters.
The fact is everyone knows now that the IDF under Netanyahu and extreme right cronies are committing war crimes/genocide, with their latest weapon of choice being starvation.

Not everyone

I agree, Babs and am guilty of this myself. At what point does Israel accept that it has successfully defeated Hamas? It has an excellent intelligence system so use it to identify where the hostages are bring held and go in to rescue them. They have suffered enough.

Parsley3

I agree, Babs and am guilty of this myself. At what point does Israel accept that it has successfully defeated Hamas? It has an excellent intelligence system so use it to identify where the hostages are bring held and go in to rescue them. They have suffered enough.

Because it’s sooo easy isn’t it? I never know to laugh or cry reading comments like the above.

There is absolutely no doubt that hamas have been using pics staged as propaganda, smooth faced made up faces of ‘mothers’ and other put together pics featuring hands with too many fingers and legs in weird positions.It’s easy enough to do.
That doesn’t mean that Palestinians there haven’t paid a high price for their support of hamas, because they undoubtedly have.It doesn’t mean that a very big proportion of the deaths there that have been officials or members or supporters of hamas haven’t also included their own families alongside them.
The question is how bad will things have to get for hamas to give up?There’s nothing left for them there but extremists are always the last to see it.

Devorgilla

The 'Truth' in these situations is very elusive. Suppose journalists are let in to roam freely. Who guards them? Who selects the areas they go to? Who watches and listens to whom they speak? Who is friend and who is foe? My experience of disputes like this anywhere in the world is that 'The Truth' or best version of it takes decades to emerge and only when people feel confident, and safe, to tell it. By all means let journalists take the risk but don't necessarily expect the truth. 'The Truth' in situations like this is usually what others want you to hear.

This exactly.

I gather my account has been suspended. I was in danger of 'breaching UK law' with my comments. No idea which one. Perhaps a lawyer on here can assist me in that. No idea either if email was genuine suspending me. Came from Suppot1Grans. So it's farewell from me.

Hang on!
It looks like a scam maybe Devorgilla as quite a few site members seem to have had this message.

Devorgilla if your account has been suspended you would not have been able to post the above message.

A few other posters have received the same message, I suspect a scam…

Thank you GNs. My thoughts exactly when I was able to post. I went into my account to read email but red flags waved when they asked me to identify myself. No, you already have that! I posted on Report the email and it has now disappeared from my inbox.

Fania Oz-Salzberger 🇮🇱🟣⚖️ פניה עוז-זלצברגר
@faniaoz
We, citizens of Israel, working in Israeli academic institutions, share civil responsibility for the horrendous acts done in our name at the Gaza Strip, in particular the contempt for human lives, the policy of starvation and the demolition of Gazan cities.
We call upon all those who take part in executing this policy not to cooperate with it. It is our human duty.
(Published in
@Haaretz
today)

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