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Israel/Gaza War - Hundreds of Israeli ex-officials appeal to Trump to help end Gaza war

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posset Mon 04-Aug-25 10:46:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkznje8nz8o

Much as I dislike Trump I believe he might have enough influence to achieve this.

foxie48 Tue 09-Sept-25 19:39:10

Sadly Israel is proving to be above the law that civilised countries adhere to. This Israeli government is willing to justify killing anyone, under any circumstances.

AGAA4 Tue 09-Sept-25 19:51:23

Israel may feel they have won a war but any humanity they may have had has well and truly been lost. That is a failure.

AGAA4 Tue 09-Sept-25 20:04:36

Hamas have said their leaders weren't killed in the Israeli attack but six others were.
If this is true it was an expensive mistake by Israel.
Trump.has told Qatar that this will not happen again. The US response seems confusing.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 20:34:06

Apparently it was innocent security policemen killed.

Israel will pass it off as collateral damage.

6 innocent Israelis were killed at the bus stop.

Is that also collateral damage?

dogsmother Tue 09-Sept-25 22:20:11

There will be no peace for a long time, a whole lot of countries are going to end up being dragged in between this and Putin our future is looking rather worrying to me.

AGAA4 Wed 10-Sept-25 08:30:19

Trump is "very unhappy" about this attack on an ally.
The US are saying that Israel informed the US military who had no authority to stop the attack. They informed the Pentagon and eventually Trump was told.
Qatar was told by the US but the attack was already taking place.
Israel failed in their mission and have more condemnation from other countries.
Qatar have said they will respond.

foxie48 Wed 10-Sept-25 08:50:03

Trump is being shown to be supportive of Netanyahu and he keeps promising to put further sanctions on Russia but does nothing. I keep wondering if any of this is linked to his association with Epstein. Epstein is said to have links to Mossad and Trump has made a lot of money out of his links with Russian businesses. Do both countries have something on him? It does make me wonder!

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:47:32

Yes foxie48, that thought has crossed many, many minds.
Meanwhile in the USA, some Republicans are so concerned about the way Trump is using the military, they are considering a move to restrict his 'Middle East ' powers. Not sure exactly what that means, but if they are succesful, that will not be good news for Netanyahu.

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:49:58

So, those 'vermin terrorists' turned out to be security personnel.

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:51:06

Didn't Smoritch go further, and say they would kill all Palestinians?
Genocide is the intention.

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:55:33

On CNN just now, Qatar, which has already manged to secure some hostage releases ( which should be, but isn't, Netanyahu's prime directive) by facilitating negotiations, has just declared the Israeli aggression as 'state terrorism'.

foxie48 Wed 10-Sept-25 11:58:50

Will Trump still get his plane from Qatar? I sincerely hope not!

Anniebach Wed 10-Sept-25 12:06:05

Quote Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:51:06
Didn't Smoritch go further, and say they would kill all Palestinians?
Genocide is the intention.

Didn’t Hamas speak of wiping Jews from the planet ?

silverlining48 Wed 10-Sept-25 12:20:51

Hasn’t Israel done the same ? Many times!

Anniebach Wed 10-Sept-25 12:28:00

Quote Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:51:06
Didn't Smoritch go further, and say they would kill all Palestinians?
Genocide is the intention.

Didn’t Hamas speak of wiping Jews from the planet ?
Add comment | Report | Private message | Quote silverlining48 Wed 10-Sept-25 12:20:51
Hasn’t Israel done the same ? Many times!

No, Israel ha# never said it wants to wipe any race from the planet, yes
it wants to rid the world of Hamas and yes they are Palestinians but big
dfference between - all Jews and a Palestinian terrorist group

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 12:39:53

Much as I hate to contradict you Annieb but may I quote an Israeli who is in power just now, and is carrying out his intention? His name is Smoritch and he is often quoted. His intention is 'Gaza will be destroyed'

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 12:40:40

Big difference Annieb between all Gazan and Hamas, don't you think?

Anniebach Wed 10-Sept-25 13:53:12

Quote Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 12:39:53
Much as I hate to contradict you Annieb but may I quote an Israeli who is in power just now, and is carrying out his intention? His name is Smoritch and he is often quoted. His intention is 'Gaza will be destroyed'

Is he ? makes a change from Netanyahu.

Wyllow3 Wed 10-Sept-25 13:57:25

From my copy of news from MSF this morning.

the wording from MSF is

"As premature babies fight for their lives, MSF medical teams in Gaza are forced to work without ultrasound machines, incubators, and even infant formula”

Stop all these excuses and feed and tend to those in need!

AGAA4 Wed 10-Sept-25 14:03:40

It's heartbreaking to know babies and children are suffering so badly.
Israel as the occupying force have failed miserably to care for the innocents.
Occupying forces have a duty of care towards all civilians and they can't accuse premature babies of being Hamas. It's their usual excuse for slaughter.

Wyllow3 Wed 10-Sept-25 14:11:27

Time for the ICC to hurry up, AGAA4.

Still holding in the light my Quaker Friend arrested for being a member of Palestine Action.

Wyllow3 Wed 10-Sept-25 14:17:14

Time for us to recognise that standing up to Netanyahu and other even more aggressive cabinet members is akin to standing up to Reform and all they stand for

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Sept-25 14:19:47

Maremia

Didn't Smoritch go further, and say they would kill all Palestinians?
Genocide is the intention.

Yes.

There is always a different message in English than in Hebrew.

The Hebrew message is invariably more extreme.

AGAA4 Wed 10-Sept-25 15:24:04

Wyllow3

Time for the ICC to hurry up, AGAA4.

Still holding in the light my Quaker Friend arrested for being a member of Palestine Action.

I've just had my news letter from MSF showing 5 premature babies in Gaza squashed into one incubator.
The doctors worry about infection.

This is so appalling.

Wyllow3 Wed 10-Sept-25 23:37:30

My attitude has hardened since we begun discussions on the issue. Especially as many Jewish people are coming out in support, thinking of the number of Rabbi in New York who demonstrated, and in addition Jewish people are suffering anti semitism as a result. All wrong, so wrong.

A lady called T'ruah posted on Facebook as follows and the picture is of her. July 29th and its got worse.

"Last night, a minyan of T'ruah rabbis wearing tallitot and holding sacks of flour and rice blocked 2nd Avenue in New York City, in front of the Israeli consulate. We held signs that said "Food --> Gaza" and posters with images of starving Gazan children.

As we were handcuffed and taken away, a crowd of hundreds of American Jews and Israeli Americans cried out "Let Gaza Live!" At one point, the crowd chanted "That's My Rabbi," and we were so moved by the support, giving us strength to keep being a loud moral voice.

We refuse to accept business as usual while people are starving.

We insist that Israel be held accountable.

We insist that a surge of aid be brought into Gaza, that the hostages be released, and that the war ends NOW