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Israel/Gaza War - Hundreds of Israeli ex-officials appeal to Trump to help end Gaza war

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posset Mon 04-Aug-25 10:46:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkznje8nz8o

Much as I dislike Trump I believe he might have enough influence to achieve this.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 15:57:53

Well there you are then.

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 16:02:08

Not for the want of trying though. Antisemitism has reared it's ugly head on a number of the Gaza threads by a few who tried to close the discussion down.
I have suffered antisemitism myself and bringing it up reminds me of a very distressing time.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 16:04:26

You didn’t say you were Jewish before now AGAA4 why was that?

Anniebach Mon 04-Aug-25 16:06:16

Quote AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 15:52:36
So what you are saying Oreo is that because some of us don't like what Netanyahu is doing we are antisemitic?
It's the usual excuse to stop people speaking out about the situation in Gaza.

Not true, if true why is there so much being spoken of in Press,
SM, ON Protest marches ?

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 16:19:10

Oreo

You didn’t say you were Jewish before now AGAA4 why was that?

I have explained before and have no intention of going through it again on here. Just know that I have a loathing for antisemitism or any other bias that causes people misery.
That's how I feel. Please accept it.

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 16:30:01

It's the usual excuse to stop people speaking about the situation in Gaza I agree AGAA.

It is true Annie. Just because it isn't working doesn't mean that isn't the reason why its happening.

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 17:11:38

I hope those who care about the situation in Gaza and the plight of the people of Gaza and Israeli hostages will continue to speak out Smileless.

silverlining48 Mon 04-Aug-25 17:12:59

Oreo if you really believe that people who speak out against what the Israeli government is doing are anti semetic then I am sorry, but just a bit surprised too.

It’s often been said on the many threads on the subject that any criticism is purely against the government of Netanyahu and his terrible team and not against the Jewish population wherever they live.

I genuinely do not believe anyone on here is antisemetic. I am not and have seen nothing on here to tell me otherwise. I have no connection with either side so am impartial, but have actively followed what has gone on in Palestine over many decades. It’s a tragedy. I always support those who are oppressed whoever they are, and Palestinians clearly have been and still are, but if it were the other way round, I am certain I would just as passionately support Israel.

As for rational thinking… I think I am fine thanks.

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 18:11:03

I'm sure they will AGAA and numbers world wide do appear to be increasing.

It's been said time and time again that criticism of the government of Israel is not antisemitic silverlining and it's a shame that it has to be repeated again and again.

valdavi Mon 04-Aug-25 18:17:23

6 thousand Gazans "went to war" "committed terrorist atrocities" (take your pick) on Oct 7th '23.

Quite a lot, but why are 2 million men women and children being treated as subhuman (and the world stands by and watches) because of this?

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 18:29:55

2 million men women and children (are) being treated as subhuman because the world stands by and watches.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:10:43

AGAA4

Oreo

You didn’t say you were Jewish before now AGAA4 why was that?

I have explained before and have no intention of going through it again on here. Just know that I have a loathing for antisemitism or any other bias that causes people misery.
That's how I feel. Please accept it.

I do accept it as you refuse to say more and make a mystery of it.
All you had to say was yes I’m Jewish or no I’m not.🤔

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:14:05

valdavi

6 thousand Gazans "went to war" "committed terrorist atrocities" (take your pick) on Oct 7th '23.

Quite a lot, but why are 2 million men women and children being treated as subhuman (and the world stands by and watches) because of this?

Going to war isn’t descending in the early hours of a morning on innocent people in their beds.Unarmed ones.
With no prior statement of war being given.
The only description are terrorists committing atrocities.

Claremont Mon 04-Aug-25 19:14:45

Oreo

I have no idea as to who is antisemitic or not.

But you have ccused many of us of being antisemitic. As said above, I do not believe a single person here who has spoken about this diabolical genocide in Gaza, is antisemitic. Not a single one.

It has become evident, all over the world not just GN, thar accusations of antisemitism has become an 'offcial' way of shutting down all debate and discussion. It no longer works now, as people are aware.

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:15:06

I don't actually have to say anything Oreo or explain anything either.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:16:38

The two million people are not being treated as sub human.
What conflict brings aid in to the people? It may not be enough but do you see Egypt doing it? Do you see Egypt opening the border to take in refugees?

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:17:17

AGAA4

I don't actually have to say anything Oreo or explain anything either.

Of course you don’t, but you gave a very odd statement.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:18:50

Claremont

Oreo

I have no idea as to who is antisemitic or not.

But you have ccused many of us of being antisemitic. As said above, I do not believe a single person here who has spoken about this diabolical genocide in Gaza, is antisemitic. Not a single one.

It has become evident, all over the world not just GN, thar accusations of antisemitism has become an 'offcial' way of shutting down all debate and discussion. It no longer works now, as people are aware.

No I have not accused many of you of anti semitism, indeed I have been careful not to, so don’t twist words to suit yourself.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:20:00

Nothing has ‘shut down’ debate around the war in Gaza and I wouldn’t have expected it to.

valdavi Mon 04-Aug-25 19:24:05

Of course you don't, AGAA4.Oreo's remark borderline offensive imo.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:24:34

Antisemitism is everywhere and has rocketed since October 7th two years ago.
I suspect strongly that a lot of those on the marches are guilty of it.
That doesn’t mean all on the marches are.
On a forum I can’t possibly know if people are or not.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:24:56

valdavi

Of course you don't, AGAA4.Oreo's remark borderline offensive imo.

Offensive how exactly?

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:26:36

Oreo your post at 15.30 says it all.The blah blah bit.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:28:05

I have been honest about being Jewish, and I know there are others on the forum that don’t like to say ( how shocking is that?!)
AGAA4 says that she has been on the receiving end of antisemitism so it’s not rocket science to assume that she is Jewish.But apparently that assumption isn’t correct.🤔

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:29:04

AGAA4

Oreo your post at 15.30 says it all.The blah blah bit.

In the playground again I see.