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Israel/Gaza War - Hundreds of Israeli ex-officials appeal to Trump to help end Gaza war

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posset Mon 04-Aug-25 10:46:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkznje8nz8o

Much as I dislike Trump I believe he might have enough influence to achieve this.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:32:21

If posters are so sure of their own arguments then why feel the need to be childish to those who have different views?

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:32:29

Atrocities are being committed on a daily basis by the Israeli government.

There have been numerous 'suggestions' that some posters are antisemitic including accusations that a poster was driven away from GN because she's Jewish as well as posts 'suggesting' that some are Hamas supporters.

Claremont just like all of us has the right to only disclose information about herself, as and when she chooses to do so without being accused of making a mystery of it.

This thread is becoming increasingly unpleasant.

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:33:15

Your comment about those if us who are against the Israeli government implied we are antisemitic. And it was you who typed blah blah and call me childish!

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:41:25

I didn’t imply anything I just said the truth that on a forum I can’t know if anyone is anti semitic.
It seems obvious to me.
Smileless2012 do you read posts or not? I haven’t said a thing about Claremont
I asked AGAA4 a simple question is all, as she shared the info that she had experienced antisemitism, as have I and just about all Jewish people have at times. She doesn’t want to answer so we will leave it.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:44:14

Further to that Smileless2012 FYI I have never made posts that suggest members are hamas supporters.

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:49:23

My mistake, your post @ 19.10 was to AGAA in which you said "I do accept it as you refuse to say more and make a mystery of it" so I may have used the wrong name but my post stands.

I didn't say you had made posts suggesting that some are Hamas supporters; do you read posts or not?

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:55:07

Then why include that in the post to me huh?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:59:39

It seems that the Israeli experts no longer deem Hamas to be a strategic threat, and yet Netanyahu is intent on expanding the military activity.

Unfortunately I very much doubt that Trump will take any action to stop Netanyahu - largely because the end result of genocide will mean a whole real estate opportunity for his grasping family.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 20:04:05

I really really don’t like Trump but I think he was just running his mouth off when he was describing how Gaza could be a real destination place in the future.He has been very quiet about that ever since.

Anniebach Mon 04-Aug-25 20:12:41

Quote Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 20:04:05
I really really don’t like Trump but I think he was just running his mouth off when he was describing how Gaza could be a real destination place in the future.He has been very quiet about that ever since.

I don’t listen to him or read of him, I don’t believe anyone would truly think of Gaza as destination place, but it makes
a change from Netanyahu accusations which are sheer fantasy
to me

Claremont Mon 04-Aug-25 20:19:57

Oreo

If posters are so sure of their own arguments then why feel the need to be childish to those who have different views?

childish, oh dear ''Oreo your post at 15.30 says it all.The blah blah bit.''

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 20:23:09

Am sure you won’t mind if I don’t engage with you Claremont as I think it’s for the best.

Claremont Mon 04-Aug-25 20:28:34

Blahblah blah is not really 'interaction' is it?

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 20:29:58

My post wasn't to you Oreo your name doesn't even appear in it.

If only the accusations against Netanyahu and his government were sheer fantasy Annie sad.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Aug-25 20:33:20

I see Gvir is living up to his reputation, by praying at Temple Mount.

Total provocation. What a menace the man is.

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 20:36:45

Yes that's unbelievable isn't it WWM you'd think there'd be enough hostilities without trying to provoke more.

AGAA4 Tue 05-Aug-25 14:41:13

Netanyahu to propose full reoccupation of Gaza according to Israeli media.

Smileless2012 Tue 05-Aug-25 14:42:13

What does he propose to do with the Palestinians?

AGAA4 Tue 05-Aug-25 15:06:41

That's what is worrying Smileless.
He wants the land for Israelis and for the Gazans to go somewhere else. Where to? Why should they leave their own land?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 05-Aug-25 16:05:49

They will be refugees - to join the other 2.5 million refugees living in poverty and stateless-ness

Smileless2012 Tue 05-Aug-25 16:43:31

Don't they have to live somewhere, have to have somewhere to go before the reoccupation can take place?

Anniebach Tue 05-Aug-25 17:22:52

Quote Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:32:29
Atrocities are being committed on a daily basis by the Israeli government.

There have been numerous 'suggestions' that some posters are antisemitic including accusations that a poster was driven away from GN because she's Jewish as well as posts 'suggesting' that some are Hamas supporters.

Not true, I spoke of a poster from Israel being bullied off the thread, Philippa was treated unfairly, there was no mention of
her being a Jew, she never spoke of it, was it assumed?

growstuff Tue 05-Aug-25 17:24:26

Yes, she did speak of it Anniebach. People disagreed with some of her views. I dispute that she was bullied.

AGAA4 Tue 05-Aug-25 17:26:19

Leaders of the IDF have said that there is nothing more to do in Gaza as Hamas are no longer a force.
Israel occupies 75% of Gaza now.
The conclusion is that Netanyahu just wants to continue this war.

growstuff Tue 05-Aug-25 17:58:07

AGAA4 It's difficult to see any other reason.

Ex-domestic intelligence agency chief Ami Ayalon, told the BBC that further military action would be futile.

"From the military point of view, [Hamas] is totally destroyed. On the other hand, as an ideology it is getting more and more power among the Palestinian people, within the Arab street around us, and also in the world of Islam.

"So the only way to defeat Hamas's ideology is to present a better future."