Palestine Action Protest

As said, I hope that more and more older people, who do not have jobs to lose, or family responsibilites, etc, will agree to protest this diabolical genocide (yes, I use the word a lot, because it is what it is, diabolical) - and be what Oreo very rudely calls, pointingly, 'useful idiots' - very proud ones. Some of course are survivors of the holocaust and in their 80s.

You can support or not support anything you like as long as you don’t cross a line by openly supporting a proscribed terror group.

Of course they should be proscribed and remain so.

Yes but you can't only do it for your own causes, so if you support protest, it has to be across the board, whether it is outside an abortion clinic, a protest led by Tommy Robinson, etc etc.

CariadAgain

fancythat

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

Absolutely so!

We are supposed to be a country that supports freedom of speech, etc.

It feels so wierd that some people are trying to restrict our traditional rights.

This.

Like this 'useful idiot', 87 years old Stephen Kapos. Do liste to him, he knows more than most of us on here

youtu.be/v4OdkaTqmDs?feature=shared

Galaxy

Yes but you can't only do it for your own causes, so if you support protest, it has to be across the board, whether it is outside an abortion clinic, a protest led by Tommy Robinson, etc etc.

Yes that’s the rub isn’t it?

Oreo

You can support or not support anything you like as long as you don’t cross a line by openly supporting a proscribed terror group.

You can however totally question why it was made into a 'proscribed terror group'.

Useful idiots is what Russia and any group which opposes the West including terror groups probably funded by Iran, call well meaning people that help their cause in any way.

Claremont

Oreo

You can support or not support anything you like as long as you don’t cross a line by openly supporting a proscribed terror group.

You can however totally question why it was made into a 'proscribed terror group'.

The government will know the answer to that.
Pro Palestinian marches have been allowed ever since the week after 7th October 2023 and are still going on and people can join those.They were banned in France from the start.

Galaxy

Yes but you can't only do it for your own causes, so if you support protest, it has to be across the board, whether it is outside an abortion clinic, a protest led by Tommy Robinson, etc etc.

Oh yes.

Am I the only one seeing the hypocrisy on this thread?

GrannyGravy13

Galaxy

Yes but you can't only do it for your own causes, so if you support protest, it has to be across the board, whether it is outside an abortion clinic, a protest led by Tommy Robinson, etc etc.

Oh yes.

Am I the only one seeing the hypocrisy on this thread?

No you’re not , they only see freedom to protest for things dear to their own hearts.

Truly have not got the time nor the energy- but Tommy Robinson's protests have been very violent against other people and police, and advocating hatred and civil unrest against our own citizens. And this country also has a strong tradition of protecting individual's rights, including womens' rights. Totally different to protesting against a genocide killing so far bout 60.000, starving people, including children, and killing them when trying to get to food, and now taking over the whole land, illegally stolen from a people and exclude them forever from their land.

If you can't see the difference, then what can I say. Hypocrisy is very much in the mind of the beholder.

Claremont

Truly have not got the time nor the energy- but Tommy Robinson's protests have been very violent against other people and police, and advocating hatred and civil unrest against our own citizens. And this country also has a strong tradition of protecting individual's rights, including womens' rights. Totally different to protesting against a genocide killing so far bout 60.000, starving people, including children, and killing them when trying to get to food, and now taking over the whole land, illegally stolen from a people and exclude them forever from their land.

If you can't see the difference, then what can I say. Hypocrisy is very much in the mind of the beholder.

Where are the protesters in support of the Afghan women, who are not allowed to be seen or heard in public, no schooling, systematic beatings?

Where are the protests in support of the young girls in Rotherham?

Where are the protestors in support of women’s rights to safe places?

I do not see these in the streets week after week…

This country does have a strong tradition of protecting individuals rights, you’re correct there.
Proscribed groups seek to undermine or damage national security and it isn’t done lightly.As I said above you can still get out there and join a pro Palestinian march unlike France who banned them from the get go.

Personally I’m with France on the banning of the marches, they have cost untold millions to police and have caused so much bad feeling which is no doubt why France chose to ban them. But that’s another story.
The UK is more liberal than France but that doesn’t make us stupid enough to allow the likes of Palestine Action.

Truly have not got the time nor the energy- but Tommy Robinson's protests have been very violent against other people and police, and advocating hatred and civil unrest against our own citizens.

And Tommy Robinson's protests are dealt with regularly by the Law.

Anniebach

Spraying paintings on display in art galleries.

Blocking roads which prevents ambulances reaching someone in need

Spraying paint on schools, political party offices etc

Acceptable ?

Spraying paintings on display in art galleries
I dont think this is very effective, generally.

If however, it is easily washable off and there is a particular reason as in the meaning of that painting/artifact to be targeted then no, I wont condemn it.
(this has been the case in all the paintings/artifacts iirc, or at least most).
Then OK in certain situations

Blocking roads which prevents ambulances reaching someone in need

A definite NO
If that is the case, and a lane has not been left open by the protestors for ambulances. I have talked to a protester about one occasion where the press reported that no ambulances could get through but in fact they had allowed for one lane through-drive

Spraying paint on schools, political party offices etc
^If the spray paint is really washable, and the target a really meaning full one, then I don't have a problem. Case by case decision.

Hilarious. In other words the right to protest only the things I agree with. No thanks. There are a number of groups committed to freedom of speech and protest but they don't just support the causes you what you want them to.
Chickens coming home to roost.

Wyllow3

Anniebach

Spraying paintings on display in art galleries.

Blocking roads which prevents ambulances reaching someone in need

Spraying paint on schools, political party offices etc

Acceptable ?

Spraying paintings on display in art galleries
I dont think this is very effective, generally.

If however, it is easily washable off and there is a particular reason as in the meaning of that painting/artifact to be targeted then no, I wont condemn it.
(this has been the case in all the paintings/artifacts iirc, or at least most).
Then OK in certain situations

Blocking roads which prevents ambulances reaching someone in need

A definite NO
If that is the case, and a lane has not been left open by the protestors for ambulances. I have talked to a protester about one occasion where the press reported that no ambulances could get through but in fact they had allowed for one lane through-drive

Spraying paint on schools, political party offices etc
^If the spray paint is really washable, and the target a really meaning full one, then I don't have a problem. Case by case decision.

I cannot believe that you support any sort of vandalism whether the paint washes off or not!!!

What sort of country do we live in where some people think this is acceptable and it never results in anything for their cause anyway.

If this wasn’t so serious this thread would be hilarious.

It is beginning to remind me of Violet Elizabeth stamping her feet I want, I want

Quote GrannyGravy13 Sat 09-Aug-25 11:16:21
If this wasn’t so serious this thread would be hilarious.

It is beginning to remind me of Violet Elizabeth stamping her feet I want, I want

GrannyGravy I thought the very same, “I will scream and scream and scream until I am sick “ it came to mind when
reading the thread

“Spraying paintings on display in art galleries -However it’s easily washed off”

I think I’ll put that down to ignorance.

They weren’t painted in Dulux Gloss you know.

What a put down for art restorers the world over🤣🤣🤣

Easily washed off 😂 yeah just get a sponge and a bucket of water and the old Fairy Liquid and the old master painting will be good as new.

fancythat

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

Peaceful protests are one thing.

This group has caused criminal damage.