Sudan, the forgotten war

Sudan is another tragedy. Two generals vying for power and thousands killed as a result.
I haven't forgotten Ukraine either and hope there will be peace soon but I don't trust Putin at all.

Maremia

What you hear about Sudan may depend on what you watch on Facebook, or to which charities/causes you donate.

What we read and see in mainstream news sources depends on the PR of the sides concerned. Unfortunately, no independent journalists are allowed into Gaza.

The issue with Sudan is that neither side has any interest in foreign PR. The snippets which make their way to western media are mainly from aid agencies and occasionally journalists.

Sudan is Africa nobody cares RSF gained control of the Gold Mines ships it to Dubai to pay for arms and supplies it’s been happening for years and nobody cares

Maremia

What you hear about Sudan may depend on what you watch on Facebook, or to which charities/causes you donate.

Nothing to do with Facebook.

You'll probably get more news on social media about Sudan

MSM is shocking the way it reports and the population actually believes it

There’s a limit to effective caring David49. All the caring imaginable won’t save lives. I had hoped that the UN would be a force for good in the world since the individual is achieving very little. Something like the UN with real clout is the only way forward, I think.

ronib

There’s a limit to effective caring David49. All the caring imaginable won’t save lives. I had hoped that the UN would be a force for good in the world since the individual is achieving very little. Something like the UN with real clout is the only way forward, I think.

UN is toothless and has been complicit with Hamas in Gaza and prolonged the war.

David49

ronib

There’s a limit to effective caring David49. All the caring imaginable won’t save lives. I had hoped that the UN would be a force for good in the world since the individual is achieving very little. Something like the UN with real clout is the only way forward, I think.

UN is toothless and has been complicit with Hamas in Gaza and prolonged the war.

Blimey!

Complicit eh!

That’s quite a statement - an institution responsible for the overseeing the international rule of law is complicit with insurgents known as Hamas who it has declared war criminals.

So that complicit statement is misinformation

I know op.

It has always been thus.

Citizens will concentrate on one or two wars, and ignore all the others. Basically.

Has always perplexed me.

Though as someone said upthread, Sudan is a civil war.

I dont think someone ordinary from the Uk is going to stop them.

Whitewavemark2

David49

ronib

There’s a limit to effective caring David49. All the caring imaginable won’t save lives. I had hoped that the UN would be a force for good in the world since the individual is achieving very little. Something like the UN with real clout is the only way forward, I think.

UN is toothless and has been complicit with Hamas in Gaza and prolonged the war.

Blimey!

Complicit eh!

That’s quite a statement - an institution responsible for the overseeing the international rule of law is complicit with insurgents known as Hamas who it has declared war criminals.

So that complicit statement is misinformation

They have provided food for Hamas, employed them to distribute aid, even those that took part in the October attack. Judging by the condition of the population men of fighting age got, plenty to eat we havn’t seen a single image of a starving young male.

David49

Whitewavemark2

David49

ronib

There’s a limit to effective caring David49. All the caring imaginable won’t save lives. I had hoped that the UN would be a force for good in the world since the individual is achieving very little. Something like the UN with real clout is the only way forward, I think.

UN is toothless and has been complicit with Hamas in Gaza and prolonged the war.

Blimey!

Complicit eh!

That’s quite a statement - an institution responsible for the overseeing the international rule of law is complicit with insurgents known as Hamas who it has declared war criminals.

So that complicit statement is misinformation

They have provided food for Hamas, employed them to distribute aid, even those that took part in the October attack. Judging by the condition of the population men of fighting age got, plenty to eat we havn’t seen a single image of a starving young male.

You will if this blockade continues.

You must have missed the posts about how starvation affects the population.

First it comes for the very young because lactating mothers dry up. In fact mothers are giving birth now having put no weight on at all. Babies will be severely underweight and soon die. Gradually starvation moves up the age range affecting the young snd very old. Men are always the last to succumb.

You are believing Netanyahu’s propaganda but if you look at the facts you will understand the truth of the matter.

It is so easy to grasp a “truth” because you want it to be true, but that is not how it works.

I admit I know little about the situation in Sudan or even Myanmar. I've read a little about it but it seldom appears in the news which is overtaken re Israel/Gaza and Ukraine and this must account for lack of prominence in people's minds. Maybe because these places are nearer to us and more involved in our own security they are highlighted which is understandable.

So sorry to have to contradict you REKA, but, because I react to the information, I get daily posts about Sudan on Facebook.
Glad that GNs are now in agreement that what is happening to the children of Gaza is 'important'.

The starvation of adults in Gaza will be a wee bit more difficult to deny, now that a young evacuated Gazan woman has died in Italy...because she was so severely malnurished.

If you are concerned about humaniterian problems in less publicised regions, Amnesty International is a source, also, a variety of Church aid organisations, and if you respond to the posts on Facebook. Some GNs will be aware of info posted on other media.

Not sure fancythat, if 'ignore' is the most accurate word. As someone said upthread, it's what you can cope with as well.
Yes, there is little that each ordinary individual can do, but there are millions of 'ordinary' folk in the world, and if each gave 'support' to the organisations who can and do help, well?

I wonder if the silence about the war in Sudan, is not an instance of a different form for racism than anti-semitism, which I agree probably fuels some of the "newsworthyness " of the conflict in Gaza.

Looking back, no-one has bothered very much about reporting conflicts, disasters etc. in Africa during my lifetime, and I will be 74 this year.

I suspect that the real reason is racism - as in "black people do not matter, they are less civilized than WE are".

I do not hold this opinion - all the Africans I have every met have been good, kind, cultured people, and the various dictators and war-lords that have plagued the African continent in the 20th century were, in my opinion, neither better nor worse that Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and various others Europe can with shame confess to having fostered.

But I fear it is a factor when we are not bombared with news from Africa, either when it is bad, as in Sudan right now, or good in the many countries of Africa that are doing well.

What about Biafra, famine in Ethiopa, Hutus v Tutsis in Rwanda, Ida Amin and the Asian refugees, apartheid in South Africa, the scandal of FGM in many African nations, Churches bombed in Nigeria.
Not completely ignored.

The West doesn't seem as interested in what is happening in Sudan but certainly other powers are quietly involved, eg UAE, Russia and China supplying arms.

The problem with mainstream news media, particularly the BBC , is that they seem to concentrate on just one subject and other news is disregarded or given a couple of minutes airtime.

We should, of course, be more aware of what is happening in Sudan, in Yemen, in Myanmar and other places where there are civil wars and conflicts. Perhaps it's because they are not threats to us?

We were certainly made aware of what was happening in Syria and knew how to try to help through charities.

We do care but, like all these wars and conflicts, we may feel helpless.

Yes, the Russians were very involved with their Wagner mercenaries.
The Chinese have an effective economic supoport programme. Can't remember what it is called.
USA has just deleted all their 'soft power' input.

The problem with mainstream news media, particularly the BBC , is that they seem to concentrate on just one subject and other news is disregarded or given a couple of minutes airtime.

Yes! This
Been happening for years.

I never cease to be amazed at, if something is made "news" then it is happening. And worth talking about.
And GN is a "guilty" as anywhere.

But those Countries and other news happening around the world, if not "made" "newsworthy" by news outlets, well it might almost never be happening.
And yet millions are killed. Or injured. Or abused. etc etc. All over the place.

Looking back, no-one has bothered very much about reporting conflicts, disasters etc. in Africa during my lifetime, and I will be 74 this year.

I can certainly remember wars, conflicts and famine in Africa and am not that much older than you.
Who can forget Band Aid, The Great Blue Peter Bring and Buy Sale?
Apartheid in S Africa, monumental changes in other African countries?

The sad thing is that, despite all the money raised, how much ever changes? 😥
They were well publicupuwed

The UN has issued a warning about starvation in Rakhine state in Myanmar and I read yesterday of starvation in Afghanistan, where there are no jobs, no money and no food. Families are selling a child in order to feed their other children while others have resorted to suicide as a way out of their hopeless situations.

There is no shortage of tragedy in the world.

I agree with you SueDonim. It makes me cross when more column inches are devoted to the Harry and Meghan's shenanigans, Jeff Bezos' wedding or even the divers who were killed on their trip to see the Titanic than are written about real tragedies which are taking place.

It's especially tragic because the world does have enough resources to look after the global population. The reasons resources aren't distributed are created by humans.

Allira

^Looking back, no-one has bothered very much about reporting conflicts, disasters etc. in Africa during my lifetime, and I will be 74 this year.^

I can certainly remember wars, conflicts and famine in Africa and am not that much older than you.
Who can forget Band Aid, The Great Blue Peter Bring and Buy Sale?
Apartheid in S Africa, monumental changes in other African countries?

The sad thing is that, despite all the money raised, how much ever changes? 😥
They were well publicupuwed

Ironically I think things were better reported, prior to 24 hours of rolling news.
Plus journalists used to report from front lines.
Not in some studio in a different Country.
Or behind desks.

Certainly, if you read old newspapers, conflicts were described in more detail.

What we have now is three minutes of an item "Another 200 people were killed in Gaza/Afghanistan/Sudan/Yemen etc" accompanied by a video of a bomb (which could be anywhere), followed by three minutes of a story about a lost hamster (or something like that).