Setting a precedent?

Primrose53

Mt61

We already have them living quite near us Casdon. Police are never away from the place. We have to put up & shut up to appease the do-gooders.

There was a lengthy post on our regional newspaper page from a 50 year old man who has lived in a social housing flat for 20 years very happily.

He says the last 18 months have been hell since asylum seekers were housed in his block. He says they smoke weed all day both inside and outside and since the weather has been hot the stink comes into his flat. They don’t speak English so don’t mix at all. They don’t work and just hang around smoking and playing loud music. They have lots of visitors from their own culture so there is shouting, door slamming, even louder music etc.

Sounds like the behaviour of a group of young men from any culture. I’ve heard similar complaints about all kinds of people over the decades.

And how they manage to smoke weed all day on £49 a week is surprising…

People most likely to use "do-gooder" are those who want to diminish or undermine the moral efforts of others.

On GN it's a perjorative word people use because, although it's inflammatory, they think GN will ignore it. Most people leave name calling in the playground. A few never grow out if it.

Well said Maizie. You just have to think of those living near universities. Different cultures exist throughout society.

Well said Maizie. You just have to think of those living near universities. Different cultures exist throughout society.

Does not make it right, though.
Student lets are feared by local residents because of the deterioration of property (landlords) and poor behaviour (students).

Who you think is "right" depends on how much is true and how much is entitled reaction to change. Somehow, if we wish to survive, we have to learn how to live alongside one another.

No one should be expected to tolerate drug-taking, drunken- ness, loud music and persistent mess, from any social group.

and how they are managing to smoke weed all day on £49 a week is surprising
Maybe it’s a perk of the job 😉

This report is from 2022 but have things changed?
Not all people arriving on small boats are fleeing persecution, famine and war.

Albanian drug gangs are using the migrant camps of northern France as a recruitment ground, offering to pay the passage of those prepared to work in the UK drugs industry on arrival, the BBC has been told.

Albanians account for around a third of the almost 40,000 people who have arrived in small boats so far this year, according to UK government figures.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63488070

petra

^and how they are managing to smoke weed all day on £49 a week is surprising^
Maybe it’s a perk of the job 😉

Perhaps they're growing it? It thrives in a cupboard, I'm told.

It needs periods of light, warmth, and of course, water but not necessarily soil.

PoliticsNerd

People most likely to use "do-gooder" are those who want to diminish or undermine the moral efforts of others.

On GN it's a perjorative word people use because, although it's inflammatory, they think GN will ignore it. Most people leave name calling in the playground. A few never grow out if it.

Saying someone is a ‘do-gooder’ isn’t being inflammatory- some people do good, some people don’t.

I prefer moral grandstanding as a term.
Stand up above the parapet and be counted but expect to get your head blown off!

Mt61

PoliticsNerd

People most likely to use "do-gooder" are those who want to diminish or undermine the moral efforts of others.

On GN it's a perjorative word people use because, although it's inflammatory, they think GN will ignore it. Most people leave name calling in the playground. A few never grow out if it.

Saying someone is a ‘do-gooder’ isn’t being inflammatory- some people do good, some people don’t.

Would you regard a do gooder in a positive light?

Thanks

That’s it, we haven’t got the infrastructure to cope with the amount of people coming across. Why don’t they settle in France, much bigger than our country. Why do they want to risk theirs lives?

Mt61

That’s it, we haven’t got the infrastructure to cope with the amount of people coming across. Why don’t they settle in France, much bigger than our country. Why do they want to risk theirs lives?

Lilli4

Yes stripeygran..but when asked last week, on a match, would those that supported irregular people coming across could they house those people, everyone had an excuse, or just said plain no 😳

Mt61

Yes stripeygran..but when asked last week, on a match, would those that supported irregular people coming across could they house those people, everyone had an excuse, or just said plain no 😳

Sorry march

PoliticsNerd

Who you think is "right" depends on how much is true and how much is entitled reaction to change. Somehow, if we wish to survive, we have to learn how to live alongside one another.

Do you live alongside a noisy student house or an asylum hotel? It sounds as if you do from your comment and you have commendably learned to co exist happily.

How do you feel about do-gooders StripeyGran? Are you one?

Mt61

That’s it, we haven’t got the infrastructure to cope with the amount of people coming across. Why don’t they settle in France, much bigger than our country. Why do they want to risk theirs lives?

They don’t seem too keen on living in France do they?

No Oreo, I wonder why? France is very safe, I believe.

Would you volunteer to house one, or two, Stripeygran, & perhaps politicsnerd?

Not entirely sure what an irregular person is ? Do you mean neuro diverse?
I live with two of those, if that helps at all.

Mt61

Mt61

That’s it, we haven’t got the infrastructure to cope with the amount of people coming across. Why don’t they settle in France, much bigger than our country. Why do they want to risk theirs lives?

Lilli4

Our black economy. In France they have nothing like the scale of it we have here.
The only way to stop that is police visiting all the premises where this is happening. But we don’t have enough police, do we 🤷‍♀️

Illegal workers are also being picked up as a result of the national initiative known as Operation CeCe, a collaboration between Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs and National Trading Standards to prevent the sale of illegal tobacco.

It has happened recently in Powys, where the Operation CeCe Wales Regional Investigation Team, Home Office Immigration Enforcement and Dyfed Powys Police Neighbourhood Policing Teams supported the operation - they found both tobacco and vapes, and illegal workers.