Man made famine - the world should be ashamed

How can anyone get through to you Wwm2? Anarchy is prevailing with Hamas dictating terms.
Did you ever study objectivity at university?

Hamas is a terrorist organisation, Israel is a country which signed up to the Geneva convention in 1951, although, of course, many former prime ministers and politicians have been members of terrorist organisations and have been implicated or charged with murder. It's of current interest that both Smotrich and Ben-Givr have been implicated in terrorist offences.
"Who are Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, the Israeli ministers sanctioned by Australia?
One was convicted of supporting a group on terrorism blacklists and is in charge of the police force. The other reportedly described himself as a "fascist homophobe". Both ministers have now been sanctioned by the Australian government." SBS news Austrailia, for Ronib who obviously prefers to believe the Australian media.

Quote ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 08:49:53
Oh silly me I forgot - as a terrorist group it may not be bound by the Geneva Convention. That’s okay then?

Yes it’s ok, and places them above criticism

I don’t believe swathes of the Australian media! Every now and again, once in a blue moon even, some reporter might inch closer to the truth…. Not happening here in the UK. foxie48

ronib

I don’t believe swathes of the Australian media! Every now and again, once in a blue moon even, some reporter might inch closer to the truth…. Not happening here in the UK. foxie48

You mean closer to what you believe. That is not necessarily the truth.

This applies to you as well. LizzieDrip

Watching BBC News, people being treated in hospital, certainly not injured or staff are starved

Unfortunately the IPC has blocked the ability to copy and paste bits of the report.

I do urge people to read it though. It gives a complete picture of what is happening in Gaza.

I will though, bung some figures together to give an idea of exactly what is happening.

Don’t forget to read Israel’s review of the IPC… in the interests of fairness and objectivity.

It is well documented that Ben-Gvir and Smotrich have been convicted of crimes. Both are key figures in the Knesset. Incitement to racism and incitement to violence are some of their crimes.
How will humanity be possible with these men and others directing this war?

Quote AGAA4 Wed 27-Aug-25 09:12:20
It is well documented that Ben-Gvir and Smotrich have been convicted of crimes. Both are key figures in the Knesset. Incitement to racism and incitement to violence are some of their crimes.
How will humanity be possible with these men and others directing this war?

Palestinian Hamas wants to kill all Jews , humanity ?

ronib

This applies to you as well. LizzieDrip

You believe whatever you want ronib.

I won’t try to ‘get through to you’ - your comments on here show me that would be a futile exercise.

History, and a court of law, will one day judge the actions of the Israeli government. I hope it will be in my lifetime so I can observe.

Quote ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 09:11:31
Don’t forget to read Israel’s review of the IPC… in the interests of fairness and objectivity.

Fairness and objectivity?

I agree LizzieDrip, when a person cannot see what is in plain sight there is nothing to be gained from pointing it out to them.
But right now increasing numbers of western governments and members of their populations, who supported the Israeli government to begin with, are becoming disgusted and distressed by what is happening in Gaza, and Israel - previously the darling of the west - is becoming a pariah state, isolated from all bar an erratic and volatile President in the US.
As Dylan once famously sang ‘the times they are a’changing’, and am certain that just as Hamas cannot ever come back from this neither can the reputation of Israel on the world stage.

Hamas can /will stay, they are Palestinians yes ?

This reads like a third rate junta report denying that it is actually committing any crimes.

It is laughable and exceedingly sad to read.

Israel has descended into a state of pariah status where the rule of law applies to no one it considers its enemy

The IPC has provided a comprehensive description of its methodology backing up its findings with data and cross-referencing.

It has been meticulous in its evidence based on empirical facts.

Israel’s refutation contains none of the necessary detail required to dispute the IPC, and can therefore only rate as opinion.

The facts: (from Israel)

Since May, 10,000+ trucks of aid entered Gaza.
80% carried food
Measures made for collection from crossings more efficient for UN & NGOs
The IPC has published a “tailor-made” fabricated report to fit Hamas’s fake campaign.
The IPC twisted its own rules and ignored its own criteria to produce false accusations against Israel.
The IPC changed its global standard, reducing the 30% threshold to 15% for this report only.
The IPC ignored its second criterion of death rate entirely to serve Hamas’s fake campaign.
The entire IPC document is based on Hamas lies laundered through organizations with vested interests.
Reality on the Ground in Gaza

There is no famine in Gaza.
Over 100,000 trucks of aid have entered Gaza since the start of the war.
Recent weeks have seen a massive influx of aid, flooding Gaza with staple foods and causing food prices to plummet.
The laws of supply and demand prove the reality – the IPC does not.
Track Record of False Forecasts

Every forecast by the IPC regarding Gaza during the war has proven baseless and false.
This latest assessment will also end up in the despicable trash bin of political documents
Previous reports and assessments by the IPC have repeatedly been proven inaccurate and do not reflect the reality on the ground. The report deliberately disregards data that was provided to its authors in a meeting held prior to its publication, and completely overlooks the efforts made in recent weeks to stabilize the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip.

What will be the indication that Hamas (a foul terrorist organization) is finally defeated? The Hamas leaders are in Doha and surely need to be taken out to meet the objective and a win declared.

It seems as if Iran has a never ending supply of Hamas leaders? The West has fallen asleep.

Whitewavemark2

We sit by watching as children starve to death, their mothers’ cannot feed them and their fathers’ unable to provide them with food.

Every single calorie is controlled by one government.

Why are we allowing this situation to continue?

I completely agree, it’s a disgusting disgrace!

I think our govt CAN and should do more.

I think both Palestinians and Israelis are suffering from this pointless war, Hamas are evil but they don’t represent all of Gaza, Netanyahu is power mad and doesn’t appear to care about his people or anyone else.

It sickens me to see children suffer ring in this way.

The war would end sooner if the West backed Israel instead of opposing it.

The West choose to condemn one Jewish state than over 50
Arab states ?

The West is too stupid to realise that it’s being played.

Hamas is/ was divided into political and military groups. The political group ran Gaza, much the same as IRA military and Sinn Fein political.

ronib

The war would end sooner if the West backed Israel instead of opposing it.

Would it? Don’t you mean all occupants of Gaza would be wiped out, including women and children, and the Gaza Strip taken by Netunyahu ?

Quote silverlining48 Wed 27-Aug-25 09:42:26
Hamas is/ was divided into political and military groups. The political group ran Gaza, much the same as IRA military and Sinn Fein political.

Comparing Hamas with IRA !