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Angela Rayner

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 03-Sept-25 13:06:43

Admits she didn’t pay enough tax. She cried this morning, on a SKY interview. Said she’d received poor legal advice, didn’t pay enough stamp duty on her new home in Hove and has referred herself to the Ethics Committee. Starmer still supports her.

Will she survive this debacle do we think?

MayBee70 Sat 06-Sept-25 17:12:56

Visgir1

I'm expecting to see her soon on "I'm a Celebrity".
She's finnished as credible MP.

Of course Dorries, the new Reform recruit, actually appeared on IACGMOOH when she should have sitting in parliament…

Maremia Sat 06-Sept-25 17:16:59

What makes a credible MP? Slagging off your country, for payment, when you should be concentrating on looking after your constituents in Parliament?

MayBee70 Sat 06-Sept-25 17:21:57

Maremia

What makes a credible MP? Slagging off your country, for payment, when you should be concentrating on looking after your constituents in Parliament?

And giving talks to anti abortionists. The man has no scruples. Didn’t he want to work in America at one time and even Trump had the sense not to use him?

Galaxy Sat 06-Sept-25 17:30:05

It is fine to talk to those who don't believe in abortion.

Casdon Sat 06-Sept-25 17:38:42

Galaxy

It is fine to talk to those who don't believe in abortion.

As long as you don’t use them to help you promote removing women’s choice because you want to coerce your population into producing more children.

Galaxy Sat 06-Sept-25 17:46:41

I don't think he has any intention of removing the right to abortion though.

Jane43 Sat 06-Sept-25 17:49:22

TerriBull

I did see a picture of Angela Rayner on the beach with a group of people, one looked very much like a teenage boy., which could have well been one of the sons. I imagine like most separated couples the children shuttle between both parents. These situations are personal and not always easy, but aside from the debacle over her housing situation, I'm sure she takes her parental responsibilities as seriously as the next person.

Apparently she and her ex husband coparent the children in the family home that is now in Trust for her disabled son, so there is no to and fro for them which is a good thing. It’s a shame she has had to relinquish all of their privacy over this unfortunate incident. I’m sure she wishes she had waited until her disabled son was 18 before buying the apartment in Hove.

Casdon Sat 06-Sept-25 17:50:09

Isn’t there a difference between removing the right to abortion and permitting people to lobby you to attempt to persuade you not to go ahead as you enter an abortion clinic though? Maybe I’m over cynical.

Jane43 Sat 06-Sept-25 17:57:17

eazybee

If she is considering returning to high level politics, although I sincerely hope she won't, she should use all the extra time she has on her hands now to enrol in Ruskin College and start a programme of education, as John Prescott and many other Labour MPs have done.
She still has her job and an extremely good income. I feel more pity for the excellent MPs of all parties who lost their jobs because of the false promises Labour made.
Sickened by the unwarranted adulation heaped on Rayner.

Well that’s a novel spin on it - MPs lost their jobs because of Labour false promises’. Not because people were sick and tired of the performance of the Tories over 14 years? The Tories made false promises too - remember Boris’s promise ‘to fix social care once and for all’. I don’t see how you can judge Labour’s manifesto promises before their term of government is up, since a manifesto is a set of aims for their term of government.

icanhandthemback Sat 06-Sept-25 18:27:26

undines

Honestly if she did not know what she was doing she should not be in parliament, let alone a government minister. Come on!

Have you read "Politics On the Edge" by Rory Stewart? It is quite an eye opener regarding politicians and the Departments they run. They often know nothing about things so Angela Raynor is not alone. The average person would probably find the rules around Trusts, Stamp duty, etc taxing...excuse the pun!

Iam64 Sat 06-Sept-25 18:47:37

I’m another who still has the capacity to be shocked by the vitriol aimed by ‘some posters’ on gransnet.

I admire
Angela Raynor for the determination shown in building a very different, better life than could have been expected given her childhood. Not just financial poverty but emotional and social poverty. She made good use of opportunities that came her way via Sureststart , Blair’s flagship aim to improve the lives of parents like her.

In my family and amongst friends I’ve heard acknowledgement she was right to resign though it isn’t be,I ever she set out to defraud the tax system. Consistent sympathy for the awful hounding and hope that she will be back politically

Allira Sat 06-Sept-25 19:07:03

This will all die down in a few months.

Allira Sat 06-Sept-25 19:12:34

She really should have taken the advice but perhaps this will make her think that she does need to listen to experts in future.

I hope someone's got a tin of white masonry paint and has painted her garden wall.

Update, yes it's been sorted:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy7p830jj4eo

Not great for the neighbours, either. Perhaps she'll invite them to participate in a glass or two of 🥂🍾 with her.

Iam64 Sat 06-Sept-25 19:13:39

I hope so Allira. It will be an ever present ghost for Angela but the cabinet is poorer without her. She’s a young woman, I hope and expect she’s learned from this horror show

LovesBach Sun 07-Sept-25 10:07:17

Allira

This will all die down in a few months.

Pehaps sooner. The phrase 'A week is a long time in politics' has been proven many times. Someone else will be on the media griddle.

TakeThat7 Mon 08-Sept-25 16:20:43

Why would media be scared of Angela I don't get Maybe70 above what would they actually be scared of??

TakeThat7 Mon 08-Sept-25 16:27:58

How is the cabinet poorer without Angela I am 64 above what did she do She's not attempted to improve working conditions for Home Helps having been one herself or training for Home helps or home carers so what did she do for any working class
It must have been kept very hidden

Doodledog Mon 08-Sept-25 17:40:07

TakeThat7

How is the cabinet poorer without Angela I am 64 above what did she do She's not attempted to improve working conditions for Home Helps having been one herself or training for Home helps or home carers so what did she do for any working class
It must have been kept very hidden

It has already been pointed out that in the year it has been in power Labour has increased the minimum wage, brought in Employment Rights and Tenants' Rights legislation, increased eligibility for carer's allowance, brought in more breakfast clubs (750 in April with plans for a huge expansion of the scheme), introduced a warm homes plan, protected the triple lock on pensions and increased the State Pension, created 3000 new nursery places, given LA's £500m in funding for the Families First scheme, which aims to encourage early intervention to nip problems in the bud, and encouraged the right to flexible working unless there is a business case for denying it.

All of those things are beneficial to working people. Not everyone is happy with all of them, as is to be expected, but they are deliberate policies aimed at improving the lives of working people.

Maybe they have been hidden. There has definitely been more media attention given to other areas, I agree.

janeainsworth Wed 10-Sept-25 20:15:41

Here’s an account of how she helped the Grenfell Tower residents, takethat7

observer.co.uk/news/columnists/article/she-listened-to-grenfells-bereaved-and-then-acted-rayner-had-pure-class-our-class