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Angela Rayner

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 03-Sept-25 13:06:43

Admits she didn’t pay enough tax. She cried this morning, on a SKY interview. Said she’d received poor legal advice, didn’t pay enough stamp duty on her new home in Hove and has referred herself to the Ethics Committee. Starmer still supports her.

Will she survive this debacle do we think?

David49 Thu 04-Sept-25 18:50:25

growstuff

Menopauselbitch

PaynesGrey

Why don't you read her statement?

Because it’s all lies.

Prove it.

It should be easy for Raynor to prove that the lawyers gave her the wrong advice so let’s hear it, my guess is that she gave them wrong information

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 04-Sept-25 18:54:01

Who needs Netflix.

Mollygo Thu 04-Sept-25 19:01:44

SaxonGrace
had this been a member of any of the opposition she would be up there leading the attack

But of course, and with the solid backing of her current supporters.

Had this been you or I as ordinary citizens HMRC would likely have had us facing charges,

Definitely. Many have met with the you have underpaid your tax even when your tax is deducted at source.

ignorance of the law has never been an excuse

Evidently it is, if you’re a A super busy woman, with a very demanding 24/7 type job, who has no legal or accounting qualifications

orly Thu 04-Sept-25 19:01:59

She's hypocritical as she was always first to pull the trigger at others' misdemeanors. And Reeves's and Starmer's support for her is like being backed up by Fred and Rose West. She;s admitted she was wrong not to pay Stamp Duty so why not just pay it into the Treasury coffers rather than refer herself to the Standard's committee in the hope they will let her off the hook.

foxie48 Thu 04-Sept-25 19:15:55

Ugh,she's paying it!. She's agreed she's liable for it!

Allira Thu 04-Sept-25 19:34:55

orly

She's hypocritical as she was always first to pull the trigger at others' misdemeanors. And Reeves's and Starmer's support for her is like being backed up by Fred and Rose West. She;s admitted she was wrong not to pay Stamp Duty so why not just pay it into the Treasury coffers rather than refer herself to the Standard's committee in the hope they will let her off the hook.

OMG!
that is a dreadful thing to say!

Iam64 Thu 04-Sept-25 19:41:05

orly

She's hypocritical as she was always first to pull the trigger at others' misdemeanors. And Reeves's and Starmer's support for her is like being backed up by Fred and Rose West. She;s admitted she was wrong not to pay Stamp Duty so why not just pay it into the Treasury coffers rather than refer herself to the Standard's committee in the hope they will let her off the hook.

Comparing Reeves and Starmer to people convicted of sexually abusing and murdering children is disgusting.

Iam64 Thu 04-Sept-25 19:42:42

Thanks Allira - xposted with you there,

Criticise Angela Raynor’s politics or tax issues but don’t stoop so low

Mollygo Thu 04-Sept-25 19:46:50

Orly, Thats a dreadful comparison.

Iam64 Thu 04-Sept-25 19:47:33

I’ve had a demand from HMRC for £980 . My pension is taxed before it arrives with me. My (small) savings managed by a financial advisor with total open contact with HMRC. I phoned, she checked and got back to me saying don’t worry, it’s HMRC error they’ll take it monthly

So I’m not trying to avoid paying tax but here I am

Blinko Thu 04-Sept-25 19:48:37

I'm afraid these slurs typify this appalling onslaught on AR. Disgusting!

icanhandthemback Thu 04-Sept-25 20:07:05

So far 2 law companies have said they did not give AR the tax law advice. One has not had dealings with her since 2020 (they set up the Trust) and the second one was the Conveyancer who calculated the tax on the information given to him by his client. I am hopeful she can provide official investigation of the tax advice she was given or she will be in trouble.

Iam64 Thu 04-Sept-25 20:07:14

Blinko, thanks for posting.

David49 Thu 04-Sept-25 20:07:27

The situation is just this.

If AR can prove she was misled by professionals she will pay the tax owed with no penaty. So let’s see the instructions she gave the tax accountants.

eazybee Thu 04-Sept-25 20:14:45

Apparently local residents are surprised by the value put on the house; the highest similar house in the neighbourhood sold recently at £525,000.

SueEH Thu 04-Sept-25 21:05:02

Good lord.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 05-Sept-25 10:18:49

Verdict reached this afternoon apparently by the Ethics Committee.

Heads you lose Starmer, tails too I’m afraid. So much for your ‘2nd phase reset’ you tried to get across on Monday.

It’s unravelling.

Doodledog Fri 05-Sept-25 10:57:49

Yes, the timing of all this is interesting, isn't it?

Casdon Fri 05-Sept-25 11:07:46

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Verdict reached this afternoon apparently by the Ethics Committee.

Heads you lose Starmer, tails too I’m afraid. So much for your ‘2nd phase reset’ you tried to get across on Monday.

It’s unravelling.

How many senior ministers went in previous governments though? It would be more of a turn up for the books if a government served a full term with no sackings or resignations in the top team. I think off the top of my head there were two in the two year Sunak government, Braverman and Zahawi?

Of course if Rayner has not been honest in her dealings she should go, but don’t make it out to be a bigger deal than it is for the future of the government, taking the past into account, it’s not exceptional.

OldFrill Fri 05-Sept-25 11:23:23

eazybee

Apparently local residents are surprised by the value put on the house; the highest similar house in the neighbourhood sold recently at £525,000.

The flat has increased in value by 26% over 7 years. It had previously increased in value by 69% over 8 years. The neighbours are talking nonsense.

Witzend Fri 05-Sept-25 11:29:43

The law company/conveyancers she used, said IIRC that they were not qualified to give the sort of specific advice she needed, and they were being made scapegoats.

Allira Fri 05-Sept-25 11:49:05

OldFrill

eazybee

Apparently local residents are surprised by the value put on the house; the highest similar house in the neighbourhood sold recently at £525,000.

The flat has increased in value by 26% over 7 years. It had previously increased in value by 69% over 8 years. The neighbours are talking nonsense.

Not the flat, the house in Ashton-under-Lyne.

The neighbours who live there might have more idea than someone on a social media forum unless you know precisely where it is.

I don't.

Allira Fri 05-Sept-25 11:55:51

Starmer can remove her Ministerial post but not sack her as Deputy PM.
She could resign if she thinks this could be detrimental to the Government.

icanhandthemback Fri 05-Sept-25 11:56:04

Witzend

The law company/conveyancers she used, said IIRC that they were not qualified to give the sort of specific advice she needed, and they were being made scapegoats.

The conveyancers can only act on the information given to them by the client. If the client misleads them, by design or by accident, they cannot give the correct advice.

Delila Fri 05-Sept-25 12:04:23

She has resigned.