Reform supporting anti-vaxxers

I don’t think you’ve been following this News and Politics forum very closely if you think that your concerns haven’t been discussed on here. Gnetters are not all illiberals.

This doctor was very active anti vaxing during covid. Discussed at the time. It amazes me that he hasn’t been struck off yet.

And yes, living where I am surrounded by fluttering St George’s crosses and Union flags (frequently attached upside down) I share your fears.

I heard about this man on the radio some time ago.
Info is out there just not quite mainstream it seems to me.

This must have been about the time I noticed him:
www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/13/bbc-cardiologist-aseem-malhotra-links-covid-jabs-to-heart-disease-deaths

I don’t know what to believe anymore regarding the Covid vaccine - but I won’t be having any more & regret the 4 I’ve already had.

The BBC are reporting it:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62z4rd87nlo

Just one of the mad people speaking at the conference this weekend.

And, of course, Reform UK are now distancing themselves from what Malholtra said.

They should rename themselves RowingBack UK.

An eminent consultant cardiologist via Dr John Campbell

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEgAi1TK99o

I am a scientist and gave up on mrna vaccines quite some time ago. I too got sucked into the covid vaccine hype in the early days and also regret the few I did have.

I’m constantly going to worry about what ( potential ) damage the Covid vaccine has done to me & my family - & indeed to everyone else.
It’s really worrying.

Because it could be years before the long term effects are fully known.

But not worried about what Covid may have done? Death, long covid?

PaynesGrey

The BBC are reporting it:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62z4rd87nlo

Just one of the mad people speaking at the conference this weekend.

And, of course, Reform UK are now distancing themselves from what Malholtra said.

They should rename themselves RowingBack UK.

Reform’s ‘get out’ is that they don’t necessarily endorse the anti-vaxer’s views, but they “do believe in free speech”.

Of course they do!

I wonder where they draw the line … do they have a line? Is anyone saying anything acceptable?

I find this entire scenario very frightening.

Why not also look up the Wikipedia page for the now debunked Doctor John Campbell.

kadinsky you can help yourself via epigenetics. The mrna vaccines have gene altering material in them and are a completely different concept to the old vaccines, which targeted single diseases locally ie the vaccine stayed put and allowed the immune system to do its job

This is the confusion Maremia - there have been plenty of negativity around the vaccine from day one, but I went ahead because basically the government scared me into it. It was almost like. ‘If you don’t have the vaccine you’ll die’

It’s interesting that the NHS are only offering the Covid vaccine to the over 75’s now. I doubt younger people needed so many covid vaccines.

Hearing about my much younger, and very fit, cousin in law struggling for months to survive, yes intubation, the whole works, bless the NHS, scared me into taking the vaccine.

Reform seem to emulate everything the Trump administration do.

Malhotra's speech was fully reported in the Sunday Times, too.

The government didn’t scare us into taking the vaccine. We had choice, most of us could see the damage Covid was causing and got vaccinated. The aim to protect ourselves and others.

The current variant is causing some to be very ill. Long Covid life changing.

The fact so many of us are vaccinated seems to help prevent serious infection,

I’m very ill currently with a viral infection, wish there’d been a vaccine to prevent it

Kandinsky

I don’t know what to believe anymore regarding the Covid vaccine - but I won’t be having any more & regret the 4 I’ve already had.

Your choice! No-one is forcing you to have any more vaccines. Please yourself!

Nurses who worked among patients with acute infectious fevers would have died if they had not received any vaccinations they needed and which were available.

There needs to be an intelligible and entertaining public information campaign concerning vaccination.

Kandinsky, a poster to Gransnet, is clearly misinformed and she is not the only one.

Iam64

Sorry to hear you’re not well at the moment. I hope you feel better very soon

I think it was rushed out & not tested long enough.
So ill after the first AZ. Pfizer, not better off that. Had four. Won’t be having any more.

I think across many countries there was over reach in terms of the vaccine.
There were many mistakes made during the pandemic, some of it was authoritarian, and whilst I understand some of the reasons for that, it will of course cause an opposite reaction. I am ashamed I didn't do enough questioning during that time.

Caleo

Nurses who worked among patients with acute infectious fevers would have died if they had not received any vaccinations they needed and which were available.

A nurse in our neighbourhood was practically forced to have that vaccine.
Even thought about quitting their job, as a result.

NotSpaghetti

I heard about this man on the radio some time ago.
Info is out there just not quite mainstream it seems to me.

This must have been about the time I noticed him:
www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/13/bbc-cardiologist-aseem-malhotra-links-covid-jabs-to-heart-disease-deaths

Thanks for the alert, Spaghetti!

Note that because a man is a doctor of medicine does not guarantee he is also reasonable or ethical.

To politicise public and personal health is not ethical. It 's downright immoral!