Peter Mandelson - Epstein . Should Starmer sack him?

This had to happen. After the disgusting letters to Epstein were revealed on the news there was no other option.

Anniebach

Quote fancythat Thu 11-Sept-25 11:06:52
It is bothering me a lot that Sir Kier Starmer didnt have the same thoughts as just about every poster on here.

He didn’t jump when media said ‘jump’

Wasnt just media!

Who else in the Country had "confidence" in him, as Sir Kier put it yesterday, apart from Sir Kier?

You?

TBH I always had a somewhat sleazy impression of Mandelson, and was astounded when he was appointed ambassador to the US.

He was a bad choice to start with considering his history. An error of judgement on Starmer's part.

Will he have the grace to resign? - I doubt it. So Starmer will have to step up to the plate.

He’s been sacked Luckygirl3. “In light of additional information* according to the Foreign Office. He should never have been appointed.

Why is this piece of work a Lord??
Do they hand them out primarily to reprobates and scoundrels?

Forget about the Press; social media and expressed personal opinions on sites such as this, I am beginning to think that Palace officials may have been instrumental in getting the PM to take action.

Having Mandelson hovering around during a State Visit to the UK; sitting down at a State Banquet etc would have put our Monarch in an impossible position. I am sure that there were robust discussions behind closed doors.

For the avoidance of any doubt, the statement in Parliament earlier this morning made it very clear that Mandelson was removed from post: that is, he wasn’t allowed to resign.

Ah - thank you for updating me. The right decision.

Must have been brought about by Badenoch, by the media, by reading of the media ?

He didn’t leap he chose the time

Will the spotlight once again focus on Prince Andrew?

What do you mean , Anniebach? Badenoch has no real power at all.I think Rinse and Repeat is nearer the truth.

Peter Mandelson has managed to bounce back from scandal at least twice as far as I can recall; several highly questionable financial matters have seen him resign, or be remived from a position close to the government of the day. Will he do it again?

Iam64

I should add, I could see the reasons Mandelson was appointed. He seems to have made a reasonable start. But I believe him staying is untenable

I agree. It was possible to see why he was appointed. We need a very skilled Ambassador and he was that.

Yes the skill of being sacked three times in four decades. A level of genius we can only aspire to.

Mandelson has never been far away from scandal.

A gay, Jewish guy befriends another man, and supports him, believing he is innocent. During this time he does an excellent job in difficult circumstances.

He's sacked because more information comes to hand.

That's it.

It was clear he had dealings with epstein after his conviction that was in the last Guardian expose. I have no idea what his being jewish or gay has to do with anything.

Quote DaisyAnneReturns Thu 11-Sept-25 12:05:45
A gay, Jewish guy befriends another man, and supports him, believing he is innocent. During this time he does an excellent job in difficult circumstances.

He's sacked because more information comes to hand.

That's it.

Yes

I’m relieved he’s been sacked. It takes away the concern that KS wouldn’t do it in case of revelations.

DaisyAnneReturns

Iam64

I should add, I could see the reasons Mandelson was appointed. He seems to have made a reasonable start. But I believe him staying is untenable

I agree. It was possible to see why he was appointed. We need a very skilled Ambassador and he was that.

He wasn't a skilled ambassador. He wasn't even a diplomat. We have plenty of them who do quietly unsung jobs in foreign countries.

Mandelson was a skilled fixer for the wealthy elite.

fancythat

Anniebach

Quote fancythat Thu 11-Sept-25 11:06:52
It is bothering me a lot that Sir Kier Starmer didnt have the same thoughts as just about every poster on here.

He didn’t jump when media said ‘jump’

Wasnt just media!

Who else in the Country had "confidence" in him, as Sir Kier put it yesterday, apart from Sir Kier?

Tony Blair 🤷‍♀️

I wonder if he was originally chosen because he was perceived to ba able to handle Trump, and that overrode concerns about his personal Epstein involvement. It’s an extremely difficult post to fill in the current USA political environment,

Any bets on who will be the next Ambassador?

petra

fancythat

Anniebach

Quote fancythat Thu 11-Sept-25 11:06:52
It is bothering me a lot that Sir Kier Starmer didnt have the same thoughts as just about every poster on here.

He didn’t jump when media said ‘jump’

Wasnt just media!

Who else in the Country had "confidence" in him, as Sir Kier put it yesterday, apart from Sir Kier?

Tony Blair 🤷‍♀️

Crumbs. You are right. TB did as well.

Now he can retire into the company of all his other dodgy friends and spend more time with his family!

But what a flagrant example of Keir Stamer's cloth-eared incompetence that he was even considered for the post let alone given it.. Or perhaps Mandelson had something on Starmer, so that he had to make the offer.