Peter Mandelson - Epstein . Should Starmer sack him?

I was listening today that it will be difficult for Starmer to sack Mandelson as he appears in the same “diary” as Trump, and that would be criticising Trump as well.

I think Mandelson should resign forthwith. Should never in fact have been appointed. Oily little man with some very dubious friends.

I should add, I could see the reasons Mandelson was appointed. He seems to have made a reasonable start. But I believe him staying is untenable

If Rayner had to quit (for much less opprobrium) then yes, he should go. But Starmer won’t sack him. It’s puts his judgement under scrutiny.

I hope he sacks him FGT and faces the inevitable scrutiny and criticism, Allowing Angela to resign, I accept. Not this though. I was so. Ross, I wrote to my MP

I accepted Mandelson’s appointment but I hope Starmer sacks him. His ‘apology’ to the victims made me so angry.

A very clever nasty manipulative man. He’s far too slippery for Starmer to get rid of him.

He should never have been appointed in the first place.
Yet another bad judgement on Starmer's part.

Well apparently Labour MPs are breaking ranks to call for Lord Mandelson to be sacked over his ties to Jeffrey Epstein.

Sir Keir Starmer is facing growing pressure from within his own party to sack the British ambassador to the US over his friendship with the late financier and convicted paedophile.

However, the Prime Minister has insisted he backs the Labour peer despite demands from MPs on the Left of the party, including a candidate to be the new deputy leader. 😡

Seems to me perfectly plausible that Mandelson didn’t know about the young girls. Do you sack someone from their job because they have or had dubious friends? I didn’t think it a good appointment in the first place but this furore seems to be more about embarrassing Starmer than about M himself.

Another Starmer u-turn coming? He must live in a permanent vortex.

Still looking for the corner in the barrel….

Peter Mandelson should do the correct thing once in his political life, fall on his sword.

This is just my own theory, but I think he will go after Trump’s state visit next week. Practically, as he will be involved in that, it would be difficult for him to go before then because of the significance of the visit and the potential slight to Trump.

How can you go to someone’s house/s and not notice the abundance of young girls 🤷‍♀️

My suspicion is that Starmer knew full well about Mandelson/Epstein and wanted him in Washington as a bridge to Trump - another known friend of Epstein.

I am sure MI5/6 are well aware of all this and would have briefed Starmer.

That Starmer knew nothing about all this is exceedingly doubtful! 🤷‍♀️

He should never have been appointed. This is the least surprising thing ever.
He should go immediately.

winter white, I genuinely don’t understand how Mandelson didn’t see what was going on. In addition Epstein had admitted and been convicted of soliciting sex from girls as young as 14.

Is it football managers full confidence?
Starmer I have full confidence in Louise Haigh
Starmer I have full confidence in Powell
& Tulip Siddiq …
Starmer I have full confidence in Angela Rayner

Most of the British population don't have confidence in Starmer.

As FGT says, Starmer would have had due diligence, he must have known this could blow up and it has

Mandelson has been up front about his friendship with Mandelson and visits to his properties all along though FriedGreenTomatoes2, so that was not something new to Starmer.
As a gay man, he would have been less suspicious in Epstein’s circles, presumably. I think the issue now is the nature of the birthday message he sent him throws a different light on their relationship to what he had revealed previously. As that birthday messages book was in the Epstein vaults, it’s unlikely that MI5 knew the exact nature of it, surely?

Donald Trump is due to visit the King next week and it's all under a cloud now.

I doubt Keir Starmer knows which way to turn.

Iam64

As FGT says, Starmer would have had due diligence, he must have known this could blow up and it has

I suspect Starmer will know a lot more than any of us do about Trump’s involvement too - and Prince Andrew’s, probably others too. However, all the information that is being revealed through the birthday book is more pieces in a massively complex jigsaw of deceits, I doubt he knew what Mandelson had written.

I knew without one moment of doubt that the Mandelson appointment would end in disaster. I think i said so on the last thread we had on him.
I didn't need to consult MI5 or see any emails.
Either I am a political genius or more likely this was entirely predictable.

Galaxy

I knew without one moment of doubt that the Mandelson appointment would end in disaster. I think i said so on the last thread we had on him.
I didn't need to consult MI5 or see any emails.
Either I am a political genius or more likely this was entirely predictable.

Yes!

I felt the same.

Or maybe you just have spidey senses Galaxy?You were by no means the only one with reservations though.

I actually can’t think of many jobs more fraught with webs of deceit to trap you than being an ambassador to the USA at the moment - I pity the poor soul that is the next one.