Can Starmer survive? The wolves are circling in the Labour Party.

And meanwhile inquiries are going on into that house Farage 'bought himself' in Clacton.

Maremia

And meanwhile inquiries are going on into that house Farage 'bought himself' in Clacton.

He is in record saying that the house was purchased by his partner.

He is in record saying that the house was purchased by his partner.

So he has, GG13, but there is a big question mark over where his partner got the money from to purchase the house. she appears to have one failed business in her past and her parents have a modest business which doesn't appear to generate enough income to have given her the money.

Did Farage give her the money to purchase in her name so that he could avoid stamp duty? Which wouldn't be illegal, but certainly would be hypocritical in view of the fuss he made over Angela Rayner.

And over why he first claimed that he'd bought the house.

He is also on record, at least twice on TV, saying that he had bought it.
Now he says his partner bought it.
Both cannot be true, so one is a lie, said in public.
It was paid for in cash. The issue, for those who are investigating is, where did the cash come from.
He claims from his parner's family. That possibility is being looked into, but, how well off are they?

Farage is on TV just now gloating about another defection from the Tories. He was asked about the house sale and has reassured us all that having consulted a KC, all is above board.
We'll see.

He claims from his parner's family. That possibility is being looked into, but, how well off are they?

Apparently, they're not well off. As I posted, apparently they ran a modest transport business which didn't make big profits. They no longer run the business but rent out the premises, not enough to finance an expensive house in Frinton.

I'm trying to find references as I've forgotten who exactly sid this...🙁

This BBC article covers much of what I posted

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce845w70g0yo

Farage is only popular because Starmer is so unpopular. If the Labour Party gets its act together and appoints a new good pm he will disappear in a puff of smoke. That is what they should be seeking. The more Farage is denigrated, the more popular he will become because he represents a way forward.

Imo Starmer needed someone as politically savvy and wily as Mandelson to deal with Trump. Also someone that might have a bit of influence over him for various reasons . Of course, if we were still in the EU we could have used them to do our negotiating and also wouldn’t be so sickeningly dependent on America for trade deals.

Starmer is toast. Just wait and see.

Starmer was never going to be popular, and it worries me slightly that we seem to be chasing the populism tail again.

When I hear how popular a politician is I think that means they are not doing their job properly.

People have to wake up to the harsh reality of living in a post-Brexit, Post-Covid world with dangerous wars going on in Ukraine and the middle east, as well as the US eating itself due to an inability to do anything about its gun laws (or law of them).

I didn't vote for Starmer in the leadership election, then again my prefered candidate has never been elected leader.

However, I do support him and feel we definately need some stability in a world which seems to be shifting at the whim of the latest social media post.

I can't see how he will hand over the responsibility to someone else without more trouble emerging.

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I do hope the future will be better.

Labour have destroyed their own power base by forgetting and ignoring the white working class - who are more interested in real issues such as housing, health and money and not the succession of failures and lies.

Clem Attlee was competent and experienced via the wartime government but he didn't have to cope with minor parties' sniping nor algorithm-driven social media which feeds the public with a distorted view of the country on a large scale. Some of the Press are as bad. Most people get their news and views via X and other sites so it's not surprising Reform does well in the polls given its charismatic leader and focus on immigrants nor that Robinson was able to muster a 100,000+ demo.

The best thing that could happen would be a shut down of social media but that won't happen and Labour seems unable to use it effectively.

And Labour doesn't present a united front.

Woe, woe and thrice woe.

Dreadnought

Labour have destroyed their own power base by forgetting and ignoring the white working class - who are more interested in real issues such as housing, health and money and not the succession of failures and lies.

They’ve reduced hospital waiting times. Increased the number of NHS dental appointments. Reintroduced Sure Start and are providing free breakfasts to many children. I believe they’ve stopped zero hours contracts and unfair dismissals (?). But they’re not the sort of things that make the headlines…

MayBee70 they might make headlines if the PM had a decent communications team around him, and if when doing the daily round of news programmes the MP rolled out on that day were not constantly having to field questions about what Labour hasn’t done, and its many failures.

The problem that Labour has is they only achieved 32% of popular vote (not including those who didn’t vote), yet our system gave them a massive majority. It is a ‘house’ built on extremely fragile foundations and the cracks are self evident.

The UK has a stagnant economy; low productivity; an aging population and a falling birthrate. Labour MPs who voted against Welfare reforms did it solely out of self interest.

FWIW, I think that Starmer and most of his close cronies lack the political nous and business experience to run the Country effectively. For example, the new Business Secretary was an Aid Worker before becoming a SPad in 2006 specialising in social exclusion.

The latest shambles over Peter Mandelson will be Starmer’s downfall. The knives are out.

Now another resignation! (Over texts re Diane Abbott a few years ago).

One of KS top aides, Director of Strategy, Paul Ovenden.

Mostlyharmless.....I think your right, most of this is what the Tories failed to deal with and is now coming out of the woodwork. I don't think anyone else could do better. Just see if we can ride it out by the next election.

If Paul Ovenden is /was one of KS's top aides I don't think the Tories were responsible.

eazybee

If Paul Ovenden is /was one of KS's top aides I don't think the Tories were responsible.

He has resigned over text messages in 2017, obviously been hanging on in the hope they wouldn’t resurface…

Apparently they were lurid and sexually explicit about Diane Abbott, according to The Times

Primrose53

Starmer is toast. Just wait and see.

So who do you want to lead the country?

MayBee70

Primrose53

Starmer is toast. Just wait and see.

So who do you want to lead the country?

Someone with better judgement than to make Lord Mandelson the U.K. Ambassador to the USA, despite him being a close associate of a convicted child sex trafficker, and who had previously resigned twice from his parliamentary positions due to scandals…

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70 they might make headlines if the PM had a decent communications team around him, and if when doing the daily round of news programmes the MP rolled out on that day were not constantly having to field questions about what Labour hasn’t done, and its many failures.

Maybe a having a press with a mainly right wing bias doesn’t help. I’m actually wishing we now had the sort of right of centre Conservative Party in power that, even though I would never have voted for them had people in it like Ken Clarke, Dominic Grieve, Rory Stewart, etc etc.But they tried to turn themselves into Reform with tragic consequences for the party and now Labour seem to be doing the same. Johnson has a lot to answer for by getting rid of so many decent Conservative MP’s. With so many Reform councillors etc being ex Tories they are everything that was bad about the Conservatives but without any of the good.