This must be a sad day for England

Iam64

IOMGran - why did you want to get married in a Church? Especially a Church where you despised and ignored the vicar? Sorry, I know my question is slightly off piste but your comment puzzled me, on a thread where English values and culture are the focus

It was a nice church and very pretty. Guilty as charged. If I was doing it ow with my old had on I would do what my gay daughter did and get hitched in a Registry Office. The church has nothing to offer me.

Eloethan

I was there with my granddaughter. If you look at the footage, a disproportionate number of the "Unite the Kingdom" participants were men - and very aggressive men at that.

They surrounded the space allocated to our Anti-Racist group on all sides so we were told by the police that, for our own safety, we would have to remain until they could ensure a secure "escape route".

Riot police and police on horseback were brought in to form a barrier as the Unite the Kingdom protesters tried to push forward into our space - I don't think it was to wish us a cheery hello. Horses had fire crackers thrown at them and bottles and other objects were thrown at the police by these so-called patriots.

During the hours when we were trapped we listened to speeches and then danced and sang to loud music. We knew we were massively outnumbered but we were determined not to become downhearted. When we were finally able to leave together, we saw the mess left behind by the Unite the Kingdom participants - cans and debris everywhere.

How can this right wing hate organisation, headed up by a convicted violent criminal, claim to representing the UK when Elon Musk is invited to pontificate on the state of our country - he a South African now living in the USA - very reassuring.

Well done for being there. I used to go on marches like this with my DH and DDs but my DH is too ill now and I am his carer.
Wish we could have joined with though.

GrannyGravy13

Didn’t realise we were playing Top Trumps on how multi cultural our friendship groups are…

😂
Looks like it.

Oreo

It was the words ‘they mustn’t be allowed to win’ 🤔

As in shutting opposition down, it's obvious to most sentient people Oreo.

My eyes are fully open Wyllow thank you.
I’m a happy person with a calm disposition. Going through a tough time but with acceptance and love. Grateful for all we have. I have no need to promote inclusivity and diversity, nor display it as a badge of honour, nor castigate others for not being so. I live my life quietly and respectfully towards all faiths, creeds and colours. I have no axes to grind.

However I do fully think that that this country of ours is under judgement, most unfairly by some. Universities, cancel culture, calls for reparation from dubious corrupt overseas governments, celebrities who mock the way of life most of us love here. Palestinian rent a gobs banging on about Gaza displaying flags ad nauseum in our capital city week after week.

I think yesterday’s display of ❤️ of our British values was wonderful. Uplifting and inspirational.

If we are so awful why do so many people want to live here? We are a tolerant, generous nation and it was good to see and celebrate our patriotism.

In my opinion.

Casdon

Good for you for actually going and supporting what you believe in in person Eloethan. We’re all talking about it, but as far as I know, nobody else on the thread was actually there.

EmeraldForest has said that she was there.

Playing 'Top Trumps' is def more uplifting than many of the posts today. Just like any other aspect of a thread, you don't have to join in.

IOMGran

QuoteGrannyGravy13 you might say wow, but my lived experience as growing up in the Southend area. I am fortunate to be able to choose where I live now.

Sounds like you lived in the rough part.

Demonising an entire City, isn’t very kind.

I don't understand what you mean. Men don't usually rape women because they are racist they rape women because they are rapists. If he was racially abusing a woman he would be a racist. If he said he raped a woman because she was black he would be a racist, this is quite an odd uncomfortable 'demand'.

Wasn't there FGT, so didn't get to join in the fun.
Which of our wonderful British values was on display? Pissing in a bottle, then throwing it at others?

Maremia

Playing 'Top Trumps' is def more uplifting than many of the posts today. Just like any other aspect of a thread, you don't have to join in.

I am aware that I can scroll past

I just do not feel the need to tell the ethnicity of my friends to all.

GrannyGravy13

IOMGran

QuoteGrannyGravy13 you might say wow, but my lived experience as growing up in the Southend area. I am fortunate to be able to choose where I live now.

Sounds like you lived in the rough part.

Demonising an entire City, isn’t very kind.

I lived in Leigh on Sea, the nice part. It's a cultural wasteland full of Eastender watching morons.

Are you trying to be deleted IOMgran. It is quite impressive in a bizarre way.

'Banging on about Gaza?' Oh you mean the Genocide of the Palestinians.

Or just plain nasty.

Nobody is asking you to GG13, but it's not up to you what others chose to bring to the thread.

Yes the Genocide is very nasty.

Oreo

Casdon

Good for you for actually going and supporting what you believe in in person Eloethan. We’re all talking about it, but as far as I know, nobody else on the thread was actually there.

EmeraldForest has said that she was there.

Whoops, I’m sorry EmeraldForest good on you too for being there.

Galaxy

Are you trying to be deleted IOMgran. It is quite impressive in a bizarre way.

I know what you mean, but being obnoxious to all and sundry is screaming for attention.

Maremia

Nobody is asking you to GG13, but it's not up to you what others chose to bring to the thread.

Totally agree it’s not up to me

I can have an opinion on a post though, just like everyone else.

Oreo

Galaxy

Are you trying to be deleted IOMgran. It is quite impressive in a bizarre way.

I know what you mean, but being obnoxious to all and sundry is screaming for attention.

Rather sad, really.

There was me thinking you lived on the Isle of Man, IOMGran

Mea culpa, I must be a ficko.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

My eyes are fully open Wyllow thank you.
I’m a happy person with a calm disposition. Going through a tough time but with acceptance and love. Grateful for all we have. I have no need to promote inclusivity and diversity, nor display it as a badge of honour, nor castigate others for not being so. I live my life quietly and respectfully towards all faiths, creeds and colours. I have no axes to grind.

However I do fully think that that this country of ours is under judgement, most unfairly by some. Universities, cancel culture, calls for reparation from dubious corrupt overseas governments, celebrities who mock the way of life most of us love here. Palestinian rent a gobs banging on about Gaza displaying flags ad nauseum in our capital city week after week.

I think yesterday’s display of ❤️ of our British values was wonderful. Uplifting and inspirational.

If we are so awful why do so many people want to live here? We are a tolerant, generous nation and it was good to see and celebrate our patriotism.

In my opinion.

Where did Musk's rallying call to "fight or die" figure in the display of British values? Was he "uplifting and inspirational"?

Oh my apologies GG13, it was an opinion. Gosh, my bad, I thought it was a sneer.

Yes it's about as ridiculous as the talk we had from a CofE vicar which we had to endure so we could get married in his church. All religion is nonsense and many people just play lip service to keep the old people happy and not rock the boat. Did you submit to your husband like I was told to by the CofE vicar because we ignored all his 'advice'?

What absolute rubbish! Was that in the 1900s? You didn't have to say 'obey', there was a choice! Unless you are very, very old.

many people just play lip service to keep the old people happy
Our vicar is the same age as my DC.

I find some of your posts stretch my credulity, IOMGran.

“I have no need to promote inclusivity and diversity, nor display it as a badge of honour, nor castigate others for not being so. I live my life quietly and respectfully towards all faiths, creeds and colours. I have no axes to grind.

Palestinian rent a gobs banging on about Gaza displaying flags ad nauseum in our capital city week after week.”
Bit contradictory that FGT ?