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Donald Trump State visit 16-18 September 2025

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Magenta8 Sat 13-Sept-25 18:03:37

Security will have to be sky high and protests are predicted as one the most unpopular world leaders comes to visit the royal family.

woodenspoon Wed 17-Sept-25 19:54:54

merlotgran

Jane112

Harry is lucky to be out of it, having to kow tow to a sex abusing,fraudulent,bigoted felon isn't an honour it's an embarrassment and a public humiliation.

On the contrary. It’s an example of how to put one’s personal feelings aside for duty and service.

And if he and the wife HAD been invited do you honestly think they wouldn’t be here? Seriously? It’s the fact that the family can happily manage without him and he isn’t missed at all is why he so vicious, jealous and doing his utmost to creep back in.

Dickens Wed 17-Sept-25 19:59:55

woodenspoon

madeleine45

If there had been a journey driving through the population, rather than him having to be only kept away from everyone, I wanted people to line up and as he came near turn their backs on the cavalcade to show in a dignified but safe way, that he was neither welcome or wanted. If all the way along the journey the same silent behaviour would have clearly shown the feelings of many people, but in a safe, decent way, that while we may not be able to declare our feelings directly to him, that we would not allow him to ignore our feelings.

But not everyone agrees with you. Yes there are those that do but, equally, others are glad he is here. If you watch the news they focus on the protestors, who are not at work, funny that. But in Windsor itself there are many Trump supporters lining the roads.

Let’s not forget, many don’t care one way or the other and many go to work, pay their taxes, so others can line the streets with their silly placards, protesting.

woodenspoon

But not everyone agrees with you. Yes there are those that do but, equally, others are glad he is here. If you watch the news they focus on the protestors, who are not at work, funny that. But in Windsor itself there are many Trump supporters lining the roads.

The many "Trump supporters lining the roads" are, presumably, if they are of working-age, "not at work" either.

Let’s not forget, many don’t care one way or the other and many go to work, pay their taxes, so others can line the streets with their silly placards, protesting.

Silly placards are a legitimate and peaceful, non-violent, way of protesting.
The average citizen, generally, has no other way to make their feelings known to those in authority, they have no other power.
Do you think it's possible that one day there might be some imposition on your way of life that you feel quite strongly about, which would make you appreciate that democratic right?

woodenspoon Wed 17-Sept-25 20:10:42

And yet, when people raise flags on lamp posts as their way of making their feelings known they are castigated. It’s their way of protesting without violence as a lack of power, as you claim.

I’m all for democratic rights if it’s for all of the population and not just some.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:11:30

I've never seen Melania look anything other than impeccable. She also has beautiful posture.

Primrose53 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:19:10

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I've never seen Melania look anything other than impeccable. She also has beautiful posture.

She does. Kate also looked perfect today. Two very glamorous ladies who represent their positions and countries admirably.

ronib Wed 17-Sept-25 20:22:55

Only three courses for a State Banquet - looks a bit like a ZaZa 3 course option…..probably all on diets?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:37:03

The State Banquet:

Tablecloths and napkins - folded in the shape of a Dutch bonnet - cruet sets, elaborate floral decorations, priceless plates, candelabra and six glasses - for water, a champagne toast, red and white wines, a dessert wine and port - will all have carefully been put in order.

Every place setting must be precisely 18 inches apart - with measuring sticks used to ensure absolute precision.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:38:51

Music
:
The state banquet will feature fanfares by The State Trumpeters of The Household Cavalry and performances by The Duchess of Edinburgh’s String Orchestra led by Captain Alexandra Nixon.

A James Bond medley precedes Schubert’s Ave Maria, while Tonight from West Side Story is followed by Purcell’s Trumpet tune and air.

Puccini, Handel, Bach and Brahms are on the set list, as is Elton John’s Tiny Dancer.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:39:57

Dresses:

The Queen was wearing a royal blue silk marocain embroidered dress by Fiona Clare, and a sapphire and diamond tiara, and the King’s Family Order.

First lady Melania Trump opted for a fitted, more daring off-the-shoulder, long-sleeved yellow gown, with contrasting pink belt.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:41:46

The King has started a new tradition.
Cocktail:
A cocktail called the Transatlantic Whisky Sour has also been created for the state visit, combining Johnnie Walker Black with the bright citrus of marmalade.

It will be crowned with a pecan foam and garnished with a toasted marshmallow set on a star-shaped biscuit, “evoking the warmth of a fireside s’more” - the classic American marshmallows melted between chocolate biscuits.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:44:50

Not everyone is happy:

The leader of the Green Party said the pomp and ceremony of Donald Trump’s second state visit is “absolutely outrageous”.

Speaking at a rally, Zack Polanski said: “Of course, we should have a relationship with the American president who’s democratically elected, but to give him a state visit, millions of pounds spent on security, a red carpet, the pomp and ceremony of everything that’s happening - that’s absolutely outrageous.

And Corbyn too of course. I’ll spare you …. 😁

ronib Wed 17-Sept-25 20:45:57

No thank you. Trump is teetotal. Just as well. FGT2 re the cocktail.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:47:04

Mr Trump is a teetotaller so will not indulge in sampling the variety of vintage wines on offer, nor the cocktail unless it is alcohol-free.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:47:28

X posts ronib ✔️

Casdon Wed 17-Sept-25 20:52:38

From what I saw, Camilla is wearing the Belgian sapphire tiara, and The Princess is wearing Queen Mary’s lovers knot tiara, which is her favourite. I’m a tiara spotter, I’m on the look out for them wearing different ones, but sadly not this time.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:53:36

And of course Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey is boycotting the banquet in a protest against Mr Trump's position on Gaza.

Casdon Wed 17-Sept-25 20:55:01

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And of course Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey is boycotting the banquet in a protest against Mr Trump's position on Gaza.

Which is his right of course. I admire him for adhering to his principles.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:55:08

Flowers:

Handpicked seasonal flowers arranged in silver-gilt centrepieces were sourced from the gardens at Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle and The Savill Garden in Windsor Great Park.

Flowers that cannot be reused after the banquet were donated to Floral Angels, a charity based at the New Covent Garden Flower Market of which the Queen is a patron.

These flowers are delivered to hospices, elderly care homes, shelters, and many other deserving beneficiaries within the local community.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 21:01:03

Fun fact:

“The Liberty Bell” by Sousa which ann article says was played at the banquet, is the Monty Python theme song. 😂

foxie48 Wed 17-Sept-25 21:17:20

“The Liberty Bell” by Sousa which ann article says was played at the banquet, is the Monty Python theme song."

I love that, it is the icing on the cake and will be totally missed by the Americans.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 21:26:33

I thought you’d appreciate it foxie! I do like to play fair.

Also, Trump reiterates that it was the BRITISH that ended slavery.

Usedtobeblonde Wed 17-Sept-25 21:31:35

I should love to be there just for the cocktail.
I love a cocktail with nibbles/canapés.
I am a girl from “social housing” who is probably too big for her boots but oh I love a cocktail because now I know what they are, I love the taste and I can afford them.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 17-Sept-25 21:36:23

I’m with you uttb. When I’m drinking (not recently) a Porn Star martini was always my cocktail of choice.

I’ve always had champagne tastes and lager money.
You can take the girl out of Old Trafford etc …

imaround Wed 17-Sept-25 22:04:07

I love Melania's dress, though don't care for the color of the belt. I agree, she always looks impeccable.

I really like that Camilla wears Royal Blue so much. It really does suit her.

The dark red color that Catherine wears often is a good color for her as well, though I have yet to see a color she looks bad in frankly. She seems to be one of the lucky few who can wear practically any color and look amazing.

Allira Wed 17-Sept-25 22:23:38

LizzieDrip

^Great pomp and circumstance that we do so well here today^

Agreed!

If there’s one thing we Brits are good at, it’s the pomp and circumstance.

I’m not a fan of Trump, and I would prefer him not to be visiting my country. However, I totally understand why this visit is happening.

Similarly, I’m not a royalist but ‘hats off’ to the Royals for doing their job for the country with great aplomb.

This is what patriotism looks like!

This is it exactly.

These international relations with our allies are more important than any one person and anyone's personal feelings.