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Why do so many people support Reform, and Tommy Robinson

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fancythat Sun 14-Sept-25 17:29:25

The question is (should be) why is it that a growing sector of the population is so disenfranchised with mainstream politics?

Why are they so concerned for their children in this changing UK?

Why has TR been held up as a paragon of British Unity ?

Our current PM maybe should address these issues?

I have lifted this post from another thread.
A couple of posters on there were talking about this issue.

growstuff Wed 17-Sept-25 19:58:02

Galaxy

Yes it is a complex picture and certainly the villages I am thinking of don't of course have the levels of immigration that local cities do. But it isn't as if people from villages don't go to cities and see levels of immigration
It is also something to do with the disparaging of things (flags, culture, etc) that are very important to people. Maybe people who don't have a lot to cling on to.
I don't think either group are able really to understand the other. And that is going to prove increasingly problematic.

When they go to cities and see immigrants (presumably the ones with brown and black faces), are they personally affected? Does it really matter what colour people's skins are or what they're wearing, if they don't interact with them? Do they just spread second-hand gossip?

I disagree with you about "groups" understanding each other. I've spent most of my adult life in the company of people from different "groups". We've understood each other very well and laughed at our own idiosyncrasies, as well as respecting occasional cultural differences.

Iam64 Wed 17-Sept-25 20:41:00

I’m with growstuff in having worked with people from different cultures, faiths/none, ethnicity, class if I dare mention it.
My team had a huge holiday plan designed by a team member. We mapped out the religious holidays, Jews and Gentiles, Muslims, Hindu, no faith etc alongside the school holidays so we could try to cover things fairly. We covered Friday afternoon throughout the dark winters so our orthodox Jewish team member could leave at noon

I am concerned about what seems like growing division in our society, in other parts of Europe and America. So much sneering and shouting.

Galaxy Wed 17-Sept-25 21:02:12

It isn't generally about skin colour ( of course it will be for some) it is I think about a complete change in particular areas. It has been too fast for many people, and it isn't as if this is only being manifested in this country.
When I am talking about groups not understanding each other, I mean by class rather than by ethnicity.

growstuff Wed 17-Sept-25 21:05:29

I'm also concerned about the divisions. To me, being British has always been about being tolerant and pragmatic, not about waving flags and going on about past wars and the Empire.

Sitting around a table at work during a coffee break with people from different backgrounds (and sometimes laughing at ourselves) is what being British is about.

growstuff Wed 17-Sept-25 21:10:00

Galaxy

It isn't generally about skin colour ( of course it will be for some) it is I think about a complete change in particular areas. It has been too fast for many people, and it isn't as if this is only being manifested in this country.
When I am talking about groups not understanding each other, I mean by class rather than by ethnicity.

I agree that there are a very small number of areas where that has happened. It affects by no means the majority of people in the country - certainly not the number people might assume from seeing last weekend's protest. Those areas need some special consideration - with the views of all people being listened to.

I think it's a great shame there isn't an inspirational, uniting figure for people in the "centre", most of whom aren't the slightest bit bothered by immigration and just want to get on with their lives in reasonable comfort and without hassle.

Oreo Wed 17-Sept-25 21:19:44

Galaxy

It isn't generally about skin colour ( of course it will be for some) it is I think about a complete change in particular areas. It has been too fast for many people, and it isn't as if this is only being manifested in this country.
When I am talking about groups not understanding each other, I mean by class rather than by ethnicity.

That’s exactly it.
Too much change way too fast.