Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel

Babs03

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The female Israeli conscript ‘spotters’ warned their bosses over a period of weeks that something unusual was happening in Gaza. They were seemingly ignored despite Hamas actually putting their military style activities in the area online, for all to see.
Hamas attacked at dawn on the. 7 th but the first Israeli soldiers didn’t appear until lunch time. A gap of 7/8 hours? They could so easily have saved so many of those hostages.

Gaza is 24 miles by 5 miles and is completely surrounded by the Israeli army so the question which should be asked is ‘why did it take so long for help to arrive? Given that the Jews trapped in their safe rooms etc would all have been on the phone reporting what happened and asking for help, from dawn onwards.

This suspicious delay has never been satisfactorily explained by Israel, and the question should be answered. I hazard a guess that there will be no answer.

I watched the harrowing documentary of what happened on 7th Oct which featured the testimony of survivors. What it showed quite starkly was how survivors were desperately raising the alarm as soon as the first attacks happened but it took so long for help to arrive that in some cases Hamas had the impunity to make return visits to the scene of the crime and could be seen almost lounging around between attacks as if they knew they had time on their side.
There were stories of police and IDF stations almost deserted due to those who should have been there being given time off. And those stories are being told by survivors not the media.
At the very least what happened was a totally unforgivable lack of security in an area - close to the border with Gaza -where security should be tight as a drum. And of course the worst case scenario is that Netanyahu orchestrated this to keep himself out of jail, boost his poor ratings as a leader, and allow him and his far right cronies to commit genocide.
Is speculation of course until a full and independent investigation is done into the tragic events that day. But it is bizzare.

I think that this will certainly be investigated, once Netanyahu and his co-conspirators have gone from the scene.

This is going to last for decades.

They have to live in temporary accommodation which will be tents at first.Where else would they live? When this is finally over then Gaza will be rebuilt.Until then it has to be tented enclaves where charities can move in with aid, medical supplies and education.

Oreo

Well it’s you and others on the thread that’s spreading this calumny so maybe stop.

If you think that this is the only place asking these questions, then you are very much mistaken.

Israeli journalists, Israeli military, together with security forces world wide are puzzled as to how an apparently absolutely world beating security force fell down so badly, particularly as it had been warned more than once.

‘Israeli military together with security forces world wide are
puzzled ‘

23 months and they are puzzled ? God help the world

Oreo

They have to live in temporary accommodation which will be tents at first.Where else would they live? When this is finally over then Gaza will be rebuilt.Until then it has to be tented enclaves where charities can move in with aid, medical supplies and education.

The concentration camps are already severely overcrowded with very poor/non-existent sanitation. Respiratory diseases is already spreading and water borne disease like typhoid cholera and diarrhoea are almost certainly likely.

You make it sound like a little camping holiday, whereas in fact it will be worse than hell.

Worse than hell? No that would be the fate of the hostages kept in tunnels and deliberately starved.

Where would you like millions to be housed? If they stay in Gaza it has to be tents.

If they stay in Gaza??!!

Yes, if they wish to stay in Gaza then what other scenario other than camps can there be?
Given a choice, if I was a Gazan then I would gladly go elsewhere.
Most won’t get the choice, so I reiterate, where else and how else can millions be housed?

There isn’t another answer is there? It has to be tents for a while.

And there we have it.

Have what, a sensible answer?

The Gazans are calling the camps Hellscape. There are far too many there for the meagre facilities provided. The tents are so close together that there is no privacy. Some don't have tents.
They were promised they would be treated humanely when they were herded into the camps but there is nothing humane about their life ving conditions.
Israel just want them out the way and have done little to sustain their lives.

Living*

I would like the millions to be housed in a significant area of land, not squashed into a tiny area. I would like there to have been sufficient tents and adequate sanitation and food aid in place before they arrived. I would like there to have been medical facilities even at there most basic level and access to clean water.

Where and how would you like to see then housed Oreo?

Given a choice, if I was a Gazan then I would happily go else where no doubt that's what Israel's hoping for Oreo, so where would you happily go to?

God help the Palestinians Annie.

Nobody who supports the genocide has yet come back to say what their opinion is on the ‘no right to return’ rule in place for any Palestinians who manage to leave Gaza, just as it has been in place for decades for the Palestinian refugees in Jordan and Egypt etc.
How is this justifiable??

Portugal has said it will recognise Palestine as a state.

Italian Adriatic port of Ravenna on Thursday blocked two trucks of arms heading to Israel, in protest about the Genocide in Gaza

Former Poet Laureate, Carol Ann Duffy has written a scathing new piece about the rich banqueting while children suffer and starve in war zones.
'Let the trumpets sound on the bombsite as the great and the good pick their way through, and a famished child peers through a bullet-hole in a wall.

Another choice, a much better one than temporary tents, would be to stop the destruction of the buildings still standing and functional, and allow in the medical and food supplies that the Palestinians need.

I wonder who will get to live in the Mar-a Gaza that is being planned?
Are Palestinians being allowed a normal life in the West Bank? How can we tell?

Babs03

The world is waking up to the fact that there is no longer any possible justification for what the Israeli government are doing but only the US president can do something about it by cutting all funding and arms to Israel. And that would be Trump, who just wants to get his hands on some prime real estate in Gaza.

Unfortunately true. And on the worlds watch they’re being allowed to do it.

Why has it taken so long for us all to condemn the genocide in Gaza perpetrated by the Israeli government and its forces?

The ugly reality is that so many ‘spokespersons’ for the Israeli government and army speak with American accents and even British ones! There seems to be endless land taken from Palestinians to distribute to these people - yet there is still talk of shoving Palestinians out of Gaza altogether.

Maremia

Another choice, a much better one than temporary tents, would be to stop the destruction of the buildings still standing and functional, and allow in the medical and food supplies that the Palestinians need.

You need to remember this is a conflict to kill or take prisoner the remaining hamas in Gaza City.
A lot of housing will have to come down in achieving that.
When it’s over any buildings still intact and functioning both in Gaza City and elsewhere can be used but tents will form the main housing, there’s no other choice.