ID cards at long last

Don't see a problem with them- but why only on smart phones?

Part of a growing trend where everything is on a phone- this worries me more.

keepingquiet

Don't see a problem with them- but why only on smart phones?

Part of a growing trend where everything is on a phone- this worries me more.

Unless I've missed something, it isn't just smartphones. AFAIK that was just mentioned to scare people.

Will the ID mean that those many immigrants who have been living here under the radar illegally for a long time will have cause to worry?
It will certainly make buying certain products online simpler if like me you don’t drive and don’t have a passport. Voting also.
Will it be just for adults?

I am very pleased that this is finally being resolved.

I heard they would be actual cards, not on a smartphone. Which is good because I have my senior rail card on my phone and am always struggling to get it up on the screen.

As a retired home-owner I won’t be applying for jobs, credit, nor renting property. The NHS, DVLA, HMRC, councils, banks and pension providers already have more information about me than they could possibly need.

Apologies, I've just been reading about it and apparently the idea is for a specifically digital card. However, there is a significant number of people who don't have smartphones, so there has to be an alternative. The idea is only in the planning stages, so there's time for non-smartphone holders to have their say. I'm sure people like Martin Lewis will have something to say.

Granmarderby10 None of us can answer those questions yet because it hasn't even got to the bill stage yet.

twiglet77

As a retired home-owner I won’t be applying for jobs, credit, nor renting property. The NHS, DVLA, HMRC, councils, banks and pension providers already have more information about me than they could possibly need.

But you will be eligible to vote and it could make your life easier if the information were all co-ordinated and accessible with one app/card.

Babs03

I heard they would be actual cards, not on a smartphone. Which is good because I have my senior rail card on my phone and am always struggling to get it up on the screen.

Does anybody actually I know?

I agree with you by the way. I couldn't get my Lidl+ card to work on my phone today. A very nice cashier helped me sort it. Somehow I'd managed to turn my wifi off .

If it’s free I’ll have one, but if I’ve to pay they can shove it.

I would be happy to carry an ID card, but I am 82. I doubt if I will be around.

My 81 year old Mum doesn't have or has ever had a mobile phone. She has never been on a computer in her life and doesn't have an email address.

I would have no problem with a card and all that it entails. I'm part of a government survey and, along with 10s of 1000s of others, have handed over personal details, medical information, DNA, blood samples, etc. for nearly 70 years. It hasn't bothered me or made any difference to my life.
I think it will be some time before it's all set up.

Who are we supposed to show these cards to? Half the time I don’t take my phone out with me. I don’t carry my passport, or drivers id. All safely put away. I refuse to carry anything that has all my personal details on it, in case I loose it.

escaped

I would have no problem with a card and all that it entails. I'm part of a government survey and, along with 10s of 1000s of others, have handed over personal details, medical information, DNA, blood samples, etc. for nearly 70 years. It hasn't bothered me or made any difference to my life.
I think it will be some time before it's all set up.

Why would you give your DNA over, if you don’t have to?

I’ve just read that initially, it’ll be for working age people only. Part of an effort to clamp down on black economy jobs.

A common sense move at last. Long overdue.
Probably too late for me though.
But I clearly remember my last one, in ww2.

How is that going to go with these people landing on the beaches- no paper work. It won’t stop them giving false information, will it. I think they need to be first in line to be sorted out.
Most brits already have pass ports & a driver’s license.

I would be happy to sign up for one.

Im surprised Farage is against these. He wants to disenfranchise some groups in the population and turn them into mere "guest workers" who can be deported at will. Digitital ID cards could be used to effectively deny resources to certian groups and place them further back in the queue behind British citizens. Access to social housing, benefits, free health provision and state education come to mind. In effect a new form of aparthied.

Bukkie

My 81 year old Mum doesn't have or has ever had a mobile phone. She has never been on a computer in her life and doesn't have an email address.

In that case, she would have to have a physical card.

CariadAgain, not having or wanting a smartphone is a personal choice we are all free to make. But I have to take issue with the notion that you need some kind of "technical" mindset to use one.
You don't! If you can operate a personal computer - and clearly you can as you post on GN - you can operate a smartphone. (Personally, I find using my phone is quicker and simpler for most things than is booting up a laptop but that's just me. )

Mt61

Who are we supposed to show these cards to? Half the time I don’t take my phone out with me. I don’t carry my passport, or drivers id. All safely put away. I refuse to carry anything that has all my personal details on it, in case I loose it.

Unless we're required to carry ID at all times, which I haven't seen suggested, it would be up to you whether you want to carry your ID with you - maybe you want to vote, pick up a parcel from the post office, sign up for a new GP, start a new job - who knows?

Bukkie

My 81 year old Mum doesn't have or has ever had a mobile phone. She has never been on a computer in her life and doesn't have an email address.

We carry ID cards all the time in France. The ones we have had since Brexit have photographs and embedded fingerprints. They are not yet on our phones, but our health cards can be.
You do have to wonder reading some of these comments how people have avoided technology for so many decades. Why would you not want to learn about something so important to everyday life?

Just like anything else. There are certain people about who will happily provide Fake ID cards/passports/driving license/certificates etc and unless these things are thoroughly checked(not just flashed in front of someone's face then so it will just carry on)

As Mt61 says how do you identify people that land here with no paperwork

I m happy to have one
When I lived in the Far East we had to have one at all times it had your fingerprint and blood group on First time I knew my blood group (at 20)
If I d been found unconscious or worse they would have known who I was for my family to be informed
A good move I believe