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ROMILO Wed 08-Oct-25 09:52:09

Today I read that the EU is threatening 50% tariffs on British steel. Instead of reading the UK is threatening 50% tariffs on German cars or French food ( that would concentrate their thinking) we will no doubt have Starmer with his appeasement face and his begging bowl. Much as I dislike most of what Trump does at least he always puts the United States first.
Isn't it long overdue for someone, anyone to put the United Kingdom first?

MaizieD Wed 08-Oct-25 10:06:56

I'm thinking that if we hadn't so stupidly left the EU those tariffs wouldn't apply to us.

Ilovecheese Wed 08-Oct-25 10:12:34

I am thinking the same as MaisieD

RosieandherMaw Wed 08-Oct-25 10:14:06

MaizieD

I'm thinking that if we hadn't so stupidly left the EU those tariffs wouldn't apply to us.

Too true!

AGAA4 Wed 08-Oct-25 10:20:42

Yes MaisieD exactly!

Mollygo Wed 08-Oct-25 11:54:38

True, if we hadn’t left, we wouldn’t be faced with these tariffs, but we have and we are.
It will be interesting to see Starmer’s response.
Submissive or forceful? What do you think?

Casdon Wed 08-Oct-25 14:00:37

‘British sources said that the UK imported 3.7 million tonnes of steel from the EU and that this could be subject to retaliatory tariffs. “The UK government will need to stand up for our industry,” one said. The UK exported 1.9 million tonnes of steel to the EU in 2024.
www.thetimes.com
Surely if there is no exemption, we will just retaliate, we’d be better off?

Barbadosbelle Sun 12-Oct-25 14:00:14

Romilo.....

Totally agree!
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icanhandthemback Sun 12-Oct-25 14:06:10

MaizieD

I'm thinking that if we hadn't so stupidly left the EU those tariffs wouldn't apply to us.

Yes, but we did and therefore we have to deal with the situation. What would you do now we're here?

Personally I hate the thought of tit for tat tariffs because they only really hit the consumer. I'd far prefer a negotiated tariff if it has to happen. The way we deal with this will have an effect on a lot of other stuff away from trade, like security, peace-keeping in Ukraine, etc. We need to work with the EU at some level even if we are not part of their club.

Trump's bully boy tactics are horrible and I'd hate to see us emulate him.

mabon2 Sun 12-Oct-25 14:30:19

I agree wholeheartedly.

rowyn Sun 12-Oct-25 14:39:46

I am thinking thank goodness we didn't join the EU

northerngardener Sun 12-Oct-25 14:47:01

My “German” car was built in Mexico…..

Casdon Sun 12-Oct-25 14:58:27

northerngardener

My “German” car was built in Mexico…..

I’m guessing you don’t live in Europe northerngardener?

Dreadwitch Sun 12-Oct-25 15:23:13

Trump isn't putting the country first, only a fool would believe that. He's putting himself first, he's doing it for power and no other reasons.

But if people in this country hadn't listened to the lies from the right we wouldn't have left the EU and wouldn't have any tariffs from Europe.

You reap what you sow, how well do you think those tariffs are working for small American companies or the people themselves? I'll tell you... They're not.

If you want to live life like that maybe you'd be better off on the US or a country run by a dictator.

keepingquiet Sun 12-Oct-25 15:29:25

Oh this post said everything I was going to say! Thankyou Dreadwitch!

petra Sun 12-Oct-25 15:33:10

Casdon

northerngardener

My “German” car was built in Mexico…..

I’m guessing you don’t live in Europe northerngardener?

We imported approx 18,000 Mexican produced German cars in 2024.

MayBee70 Sun 12-Oct-25 15:34:25

ROMILO

Today I read that the EU is threatening 50% tariffs on British steel. Instead of reading the UK is threatening 50% tariffs on German cars or French food ( that would concentrate their thinking) we will no doubt have Starmer with his appeasement face and his begging bowl. Much as I dislike most of what Trump does at least he always puts the United States first.
Isn't it long overdue for someone, anyone to put the United Kingdom first?

The EU looks after its own. Why shouldn’t they?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 12-Oct-25 15:38:38

Perhaps it is time for closer working.

We already are working much closer regarding defence.

It would certainly give a boost to our economy.

Casdon Sun 12-Oct-25 15:41:37

petra

Casdon

northerngardener

My “German” car was built in Mexico…..

I’m guessing you don’t live in Europe northerngardener?

We imported approx 18,000 Mexican produced German cars in 2024.

You’re right, I’ve since been looking this up. I knew vehicle manufacture was a global market, with different engine and body parts made all over the world, but I didn’t realise whole cars were produced in Mexico for sale in Europe - it appears to be model specific, with some models being made in Europe, and some there, with different models crossing the globe.

Casdon Sun 12-Oct-25 15:43:08

MayBee70

ROMILO

Today I read that the EU is threatening 50% tariffs on British steel. Instead of reading the UK is threatening 50% tariffs on German cars or French food ( that would concentrate their thinking) we will no doubt have Starmer with his appeasement face and his begging bowl. Much as I dislike most of what Trump does at least he always puts the United States first.
Isn't it long overdue for someone, anyone to put the United Kingdom first?

The EU looks after its own. Why shouldn’t they?

As I posted above the UK imports more steel from the EU than it sells to the EU, so a deal will probably be done.

petra Sun 12-Oct-25 15:57:54

Casdon

petra

Casdon

northerngardener

My “German” car was built in Mexico…..

I’m guessing you don’t live in Europe northerngardener?

We imported approx 18,000 Mexican produced German cars in 2024.

You’re right, I’ve since been looking this up. I knew vehicle manufacture was a global market, with different engine and body parts made all over the world, but I didn’t realise whole cars were produced in Mexico for sale in Europe - it appears to be model specific, with some models being made in Europe, and some there, with different models crossing the globe.

Casdon
Two factors at play here. Labour costs and the close proximity to the US market. Germanys largest market.

David49 Sun 12-Oct-25 16:00:08

petra

Casdon

northerngardener

My “German” car was built in Mexico…..

I’m guessing you don’t live in Europe northerngardener?

We imported approx 18,000 Mexican produced German cars in 2024.

Not just Mexico BMW VW and Mercedes all have US factories that supply certain models to UK

Casdon Sun 12-Oct-25 16:12:20

I don’t agree with cars being shipped over the Atlantic, I want to buy from the UK or Europe wherever I can. Something else to keep an eye on.

mokryna Sun 12-Oct-25 16:15:30

The UK wouldn’t have this problem if the public hadn’t been lied to, for the Brexit vote. Are there any cars that are completely made in the uk and owned by a British company?

suelld Sun 12-Oct-25 16:47:57

MaizieD

I'm thinking that if we hadn't so stupidly left the EU those tariffs wouldn't apply to us.

Hear hear… why did people believe the Lying Politicians. Just like Trumps Maga peoples… almost no one e does their own research. If they had they might have realised that both leaving the EU for us and electing Trump for the US was a bad idea from day 1.
By the way Trump never puts the US first, he ALWAYS puts what’s good for Trump first! Look at his eulogised Peace Plan in Gaza… why did he try to get that done… well he said it himself…REAL ESTATE …Trump Gaza Riviera! Not interested in what happens to the Gazan peoples… just akways pretend humanity with an ulterior motive!