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ROMILO Wed 08-Oct-25 09:52:09

Today I read that the EU is threatening 50% tariffs on British steel. Instead of reading the UK is threatening 50% tariffs on German cars or French food ( that would concentrate their thinking) we will no doubt have Starmer with his appeasement face and his begging bowl. Much as I dislike most of what Trump does at least he always puts the United States first.
Isn't it long overdue for someone, anyone to put the United Kingdom first?

icanhandthemback Sun 12-Oct-25 17:52:20

suelld, you could equally ask why the complacent Politicians be more informative about why we should stay. However, it really is water under the bridge it really doesn't help with what is happening today.
Now, with Trump, after his first term it begs the question, "Who didn't foresee what was coming." He showed his true colours the first time around! Now he appears to have licence to do what he wants.

Casdon Sun 12-Oct-25 18:07:19

mokryna

The UK wouldn’t have this problem if the public hadn’t been lied to, for the Brexit vote. Are there any cars that are completely made in the uk and owned by a British company?

Morgan? No mainstream or average priced cars that I’m aware of, although some models owned by non British companies are manufactured in the UK.

win Sun 12-Oct-25 18:55:34

rowyn

I am thinking thank goodness we didn't join the EU

Give us one reason why please!!

MayBee70 Sun 12-Oct-25 20:20:21

At least Starmer, an ardent remainer, has tried to rebuild our damaged relationship with our European neighbours. Lets not forget Truss's stupid, childish comment re France [or was it re Macron]?

mokryna Sun 12-Oct-25 21:00:48

Casdon

mokryna

The UK wouldn’t have this problem if the public hadn’t been lied to, for the Brexit vote. Are there any cars that are completely made in the uk and owned by a British company?

Morgan? No mainstream or average priced cars that I’m aware of, although some models owned by non British companies are manufactured in the UK.

Casdon If I won the premium bond draw I would buy a green Morgan. Next month maybe……but then there is the waiting list!

MaizieD Sun 12-Oct-25 21:03:34

Casdon

mokryna

The UK wouldn’t have this problem if the public hadn’t been lied to, for the Brexit vote. Are there any cars that are completely made in the uk and owned by a British company?

Morgan? No mainstream or average priced cars that I’m aware of, although some models owned by non British companies are manufactured in the UK.

Ha ha, Casdon 🤣

Morgan was the only one I could think of. Hardly a high volume popular car…

Nissan is still holding on at Sunderland, doesn’t Honda have a presence somewhere? and Jaguar Landrover is restarting production. None British owned.

JPB123 Sun 12-Oct-25 21:29:57

Same here ,MaizieD.

Casdon Sun 12-Oct-25 22:01:02

Quite a few cars are made in the UK still, according to AI:

‘Premium and sports car manufacturers
Aston Martin: Produces all its models in the UK at factories in Gaydon and St Athan, Wales.
Bentley: Has its main production facility in Crewe, England.
Jaguar Land Rover: Produces a wide range of Jaguar and Land Rover models in the UK.
Lotus: Manufactures its sports cars in the UK.
McLaren: Builds its supercars in the UK.
Mini: Has a major manufacturing plant in Oxford, England.
Rolls-Royce: Produces its luxury vehicles at the Goodwood Estate in West Sussex, England.
Other volume and international manufacturers
Nissan: Produces vehicles like the Qashqai at its UK factory.
Toyota: Manufactures models such as the Corolla at its Burnaston plant in Derbyshire.
Vauxhall: Produces models like the Astra in the UK.
MG Motor: Continues to have a presence in the UK.’

None of them are British owned companies though - although
I’d still rather buy a car made here regardless of that. I’d buy an Aston Martin DBX, made here in Wales if I had the odd £200k going spare..

LemonJam Mon 13-Oct-25 11:22:08

ROMILO Wed 08-Oct-25 09:52:09
"Today I read that the EU is threatening 50% tariffs on British steel. Instead of reading the UK is threatening 50% tariffs on German cars or French food ( that would concentrate their thinking) we will no doubt have Starmer with his appeasement face and his begging bowl. Much as I dislike most of what Trump does at least he always puts the United States first.
Isn't it long overdue for someone, anyone to put the United Kingdom first?"

You admire Trump as you believe he puts America first and he imposes tariffs on other countries. Logically you therefore also admire the EU as you believe that it also puts the EU first and imposes tariffs on none EU countries.

As others have said, the UK voted for Brexit (52% to 48%) , on a very narrow margin, so it only has itself to blame if the EU decides to pose trade tariffs on the UK as a result of our Brexit vote. By January 2025, living with the consequences and 5 years after we left the EU, a Yougov poll identified just 3 in 10 Britons now say that Brexit was the right thing to do.

In light of the EU 50% threat to UK Romillo, you state "we will no doubt have Starmer with his appeasement face and his begging bowl ". How would you specifically like Starmer/the government to respond to the EU tariff threat Romillo in a way that puts the UK first in your view?

David49 Mon 13-Oct-25 16:58:11

As has been stated there are many cars built in the UK but none are UK owned

Morgan isn’t nor Aston Martin or McLaren

FranP Mon 13-Oct-25 22:24:07

MayBee70

ROMILO

Today I read that the EU is threatening 50% tariffs on British steel. Instead of reading the UK is threatening 50% tariffs on German cars or French food ( that would concentrate their thinking) we will no doubt have Starmer with his appeasement face and his begging bowl. Much as I dislike most of what Trump does at least he always puts the United States first.
Isn't it long overdue for someone, anyone to put the United Kingdom first?

The EU looks after its own. Why shouldn’t they?

Time we did too, and told the EU where to get off. We paid far too much to be a member, and now we are still paying.

As to steel, our coal industry was decimated when British Steel bought subsidised Polish coal instead of the coal being mined on its doorstep, putting miners on to the dole.

We buy in steel because we stopped producing the steel we needed. Steel is not just steel, and we produce some of the specialist quality stuff the EU does not. Now the govt is allowing Tata (who own British Steel) to stop producing some of these types.

MayBee70 Mon 13-Oct-25 22:29:17

You’re right when you say were ’still paying’…