Maccabi Tel Aviv football club banned

I went with a boyfriend when I was about 18.
😴
The boyfriend didn't last long either.

Yes, but not sure if it counts. On holiday in Ireland. Fabulous weather. Great crowd. They also have different rules, and it seemed to flow much better than our soccer games I watch on TV.

Allira

Has anyone on here actually been to a football match at League level?

Yes.

Oreo

Smileless2012

To answer your question @ 9.42 Oreo yes I do think all those leaders are wrong and if heaven forbid the ban is lifted, there is trouble and Maccabi Tel Aviv 'fans' are responsible, what will you and those leaders have to say then?

I will still think it was the right thing to do, not to ban the whole fanbase of an Israeli team for poor behaviour from a few.In Amsterdam only ten maccabi fans were arrested and as far as I know none were charged.Various Amsterdam residents have just received prison sentences. Muslim taxi drivers and others collaborated on SM to go out on a Jew hunt there.
We can’t allow a minority here to not allow Jews, Israeli Jews in this case to dictate.The police must manage things as they always have to do.

What about Athens and Serbia? Maccabi needs to get its act together and sort its "fanatics" out. It wasn't just Holland.

Other clubs have been banned because of the unacceptable behaviour of some fans.
It is not a new concept.

Exactly Maremia.

But, in this case, the reason given is that the Maccabi fans coming here could mean that other groups would be out on the streets protesting, causing mayhem, disruption and danger to the general public. 🤔

Maremia

Other clubs have been banned because of the unacceptable behaviour of some fans.
It is not a new concept.

No it isn't but it seems Israel is a special case to some.
Those senior people trying to lift the ban need to grow a spine and not be threatened by antisemitism. This is about public safety not religion.

Allira

But, in this case, the reason given is that the Maccabi fans coming here could mean that other groups would be out on the streets protesting, causing mayhem, disruption and danger to the general public. 🤔

Really? Where has that reason been given? Look at Maccabi's history.

Are you saying that Maccabi fans have never protested, caused mayhem, disruption and danger Allira?

I’ve been a Villa supporter since 1970 and regularly attend matches. Villa Park is an old fashioned style stadium, which is located in a densely packed residential area about 3 miles from the city centre. There are no wide concourses around the ground, or large coach parking areas away from the ground. It is surrounded by houses & narrow roads.

I have witnessed fighting at matches in the past but the only recent time was the Legia Warsaw game. Their fans had already caused trouble in the city centre, then turned up to the ground without tickets. They attacked and injured the police and caused considerable damage at the ground & in the surrounding area.
I imagine West Mids police had this in mind, as well as the Maccabi fans racist & unruly behaviour, most recently in Amsterdam. Maccabi football club do not appear to have made any effort to investigate their own Ultra group who instigate this behaviour & stop them from travelling.

I sincerely hope the ban isn’t overturned and that Villa fans and local residents are not put at risk.

bmacca these are the concerns from the police. They are worried about the people living in that area and their property.
It seems madness to actually invite trouble.
This has been blown up out of proportion by those who should know better.

'Injured the police', but it has been said upthread, that's part of their job.
Well then, they should have a say in what should happen.
At the moment, they seem to be for the ban.

AGAA4

Maremia

Other clubs have been banned because of the unacceptable behaviour of some fans.
It is not a new concept.

No it isn't but it seems Israel is a special case to some.
Those senior people trying to lift the ban need to grow a spine and not be threatened by antisemitism. This is about public safety not religion.

Precisely. Some football teams are notorious for having fans that travel around causing trouble and Maccabee is one of them. Why should they hide behind an accusation of anti semitism? I have always been thoroughly ashamed when England fans have caused trouble abroad; I’m trying to remember if they have actually been banned at times and, if they have I would fully support that. It’s as if someone has moved the goal posts when it comes to accusing anyone from Israel of wrongdoing because of the fear of the antisemitism accusation. Each case should be viewed on it’s own merits imo.

Well said

MayBee70 I have always been thoroughly ashamed when England fans have caused trouble abroad; I’m trying to remember if they have actually been banned at times and, if they have I would fully support that.
Every English football team was banned from all European competitions for 5 years following the disgraceful behaviour of Liverpool fans at Heysel. Many people thought it was very harsh on those teams who would have qualified to participate whose fans hadn't transgressed.

So, being banned for 'bad behaviour ' is not a new concept.

I'm very much in favour of the Police's suggestion today that the very rich footie clubs at this level should pay for the policing of their miscreants, whoever they are

Players are paid millions, some people pay thousands to see their team. they want to game?

Pay out.

Interesting suggestion

Liloldlady

Now the troops are out of Gaza why not fly some over to keep the Israeli supporters under control!!

I’m catching up and only on page five. Apologies for commenting before RTT but - keep the Ireali supporters under control is so shocking
Maccabi Tel Aviv is a football team. Some of its supporters behave badly, like Millwall. They are not Israeli supporters, they’re football fans
Right, deep breath, back to reading

That policing proposal was put out several months ago, wasn't it? Maybe they should have hurried it through for the new season.

Sadly bad behaviour spoils over everywhere, and we can all find arguments to state. Like the last Manager/Head Coach of Maccabi who had to leave recently because his wife was getting abuse online, and receiving sinister threats. - Simply because her husband was managing a Jewish Club, (he and his wife are Irish).

I don't want a police state where Starmer (or whoever follows him) can dictate security/police matters.

Political parties shouldn't be involved in these decisions.

The thing about the Club paying for the policing, for any situation, not just this one, what happens if the Club doesn't put up enough money for a safe number of police to attend? Or would the payment be retrospective? Or have they not developed the plan yet?

CAN'T dictate!

Good point NotSpaghetti