There's a YouTube news channel video up there this morning re Virginia Guiffre - title "From the Grave: Virginia Guiffre names Israeli pm as her Epstein abuser". The Kim Everson news channel.
Well well....apparently she was beaten and raped by him. Yep.....I can believe that all round - him having contacts like that and taking actions like that.
Real "wheels within wheels" stuff going on and it's even clearer now why her suicide and her book.....
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Breaking Peace in the Middle East? Continued thread.
(333 Posts)In a new violation of the ceasefire, Occupation Forces carried out a horrific massacre yesterday against the Abu Shaaban family on the outskirts of Zaytun.
Victims include:
• Ihab Nasser Abu Shaaban (38) – husband
-Randa Majid Muhammad Abu Shaaban (36) – wife
-Nasser Ihab Abu Shaaban (13) – son
-Jumana Ihab Abu Shaaban (10) – daughter
-Ibrahim Ihab Abu Shaaban (6) – son
-Muhammad Ihab Abu Shaaban (5) – son
Also killed were his sister Samer Muhammad Nasser Shaaban (Abu Shaaban before marriage), her husband Sufyan Othman Shaaban, and their three children:
-Nesma Sufyan Shaaban (12)
-Karam Sufyan Shaaban (10)
-Anas Sufyan Shaaban (8)
It's starting to look like the yellow line will become the border between Israel and Gaza and for Israeli settlers to have that extra land.
Commentators are saying the US is now in charge of the IDF. BBC news.
AGAA4
It's starting to look like the yellow line will become the border between Israel and Gaza and for Israeli settlers to have that extra land.
Commentators are saying the US is now in charge of the IDF. BBC news.
That does not surprise me in the slightest I'm afraid. I think it's about 50% of Gaza they're hoping to grab for under that particular excuse. They've been squeezing squeezing squeezing under any excuse they can think of ever since the end of 2nd World War. This is just the latest in their long line of excuses for land theft.
I gather a noticeable number of Jews are now leaving Palestine for about the last year - and one can only hope this will reduce the number of people they're trying to grab land for and maybe there won't be so much land-grabbing in the future. But I suspect they will keep making excuses - both at governmental and settler level to carry on grabbing - just because they want all of Palestine and then they'll be after what they call "Greater Israel".
It's mind-boggling at their sheer nerve and self-belief looking from outside....I really struggle to get my head around it (as do any of us that respect that other peoples property IS other peoples property).
Whitewavemark2
Thank goodness something is being done.
Will they be under the blue helmets? I would like to think so.
Yes, my feelings too. 🙏🙏
This is what needs to happen. Soldiers from other countries to take control. I thought Turkey and India had sent in troops too?
AGAA4
This is what needs to happen. Soldiers from other countries to take control. I thought Turkey and India had sent in troops too?
At the moment there are no foreign troops deployed in Gaza.
They are just part of a Task Force think tank.
I do not want to see British or any other countries forces used as target practice by Hamas.
Whether we like it or not Hamas still have weaponry and they are not unwilling to use them.
If the blue helmets went in they would be just as concerned with the IDF who have done much more damage as well as Hamas.
Nobody wants to see soldiers from other countries in open conflict with Hamas
Getting views from other forces will hopefully help to make a workable plan.
CariadAgain I have looked through various internet news sites and cannot find your allegations regarding PM Netanyahu.
The US version of her book states a high profile prime minister the U.K. version states a former minister
Please can you give us your source?
GrannyGravy13
AGAA4
This is what needs to happen. Soldiers from other countries to take control. I thought Turkey and India had sent in troops too?
At the moment there are no foreign troops deployed in Gaza.
They are just part of a Task Force think tank.
I do not want to see British or any other countries forces used as target practice by Hamas.
Whether we like it or not Hamas still have weaponry and they are not unwilling to use them.
Its part of the job of a soldier to take on peacekeeping tasks which includes being under fire at times.
That might sound hard GG13 but when you see adverts to join the army peacekeeping abroad is regarded very much as part of why we have an army. They are carrying guns in those adverts, of course!
When we joined peacekeeping forces in Bosnia it brought an end to the terrible conflict there. there are so many parts of the world that are in need of such forces.
Since WW2 having active peacekeeping forces (initially under the UN) has been crucial
I feel grateful they will take this role on, consider it quite proper, and wish them all the best.
I wish them courage and steadfastness.
Wyllow3
Our son is a high ranking officer in the U.K. army, I am extremely aware of what it entails to join up
As for Bosnia, that’s a time as a parent I do not wish to revisit and it is not pertinent to this thread, thank you Wyllow3
GrannyGravy13
AGAA4
This is what needs to happen. Soldiers from other countries to take control. I thought Turkey and India had sent in troops too?
At the moment there are no foreign troops deployed in Gaza.
They are just part of a Task Force think tank.
I do not want to see British or any other countries forces used as target practice by Hamas.
Whether we like it or not Hamas still have weaponry and they are not unwilling to use them.
I assume these are the personnel who have been deployed. Reuters is usually fairly accurate.
www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/uk-deploys-small-number-military-officers-israel-following-us-request-2025-10-21/
GrannyGravy13
Wyllow3
Our son is a high ranking officer in the U.K. army, I am extremely aware of what it entails to ^join up^
I wish him only the very best for his courage, GG13.
Thank you Wyllow3 he like most Officers puts his men(and women) first.
GrannyGravy13
CariadAgain I have looked through various internet news sites and cannot find your allegations regarding PM Netanyahu.
The US version of her book states a high profile prime minister the U.K. version states a former minister
Please can you give us your source?
Read my post again. I did say.
Paragraph 1.
CariadAgain I have not heard of Kim Everson.
If this had been verified it would be on mainstream news and media outlets and when I looked it was not.
CariadAgain, thank you for info re the You tube video- just googled to listen to.
You'm welcome LemonJam.
It's astonishing just how much has been going on one way or another. I have known the basic gist of what's happening since I was a teenager - but it's not easy to find out more and steadily more and a bit of a shock to the system to realise just how much has been going on. Pretty disillusioning - but my personal take is it's best to know what's happening all round....even if it's the harder route to take...
Another disgusting assault by a Settler on a 55 year old Palestinian woman in the West Bank. She was harvesting olives when he attacked. She was seriously injured and taken to hospital.
Happens all the time, I know, but this was witnessed by a visitor from the US, and so this story will travel.
The IDF claimed to have investigated, but he reported, in The Guardian this morning, that the IDF actually tried to steer them away from the incident.
I was just about to reply that ‘it will be investigated’ and, as usual we won’t hear any more about it but I see that has already happened
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Well, doesn't it all depend on who is Investigator, Judge and Jury?
I've seen a LOT of reports on attacks by settlers. Earlier today I was watching a volunteer doctor from Australia and she was being very graphic indeed about what wounds etc she is seeing in the hospital she's at (full of admiration for her for doing something like that for sure).
The more I look at things like that the more I, quite honestly, wonder if the Earth has got people living on it on the one hand (ie normal people) and another species that just looks as if they're human - but they're not. I'm definitely struggling to get my head round how some others can be so evil. One can often see in their eyes that they are this "are they another species?" people - eg that leading settler woman (Daniella Weiss - if I recall her name correctly). Her eyes tell me all I need to know about what she's like.
I must admit I'm struggling to get my head around how these people can act this way. First we had that Covid Lockdown round the world (and still feeling the after-effects of the way some people are acting differently now) and now we're seeing these "other race?" people being spectacularly evil in their doings and it does get me wondering what the heck is going on.
A new video on this has just been issued by a channel I came across a few months back - called "Kernow Damo".
This latest video is called "Britain's role in Gaza exposed - and it's worse than you think".
Personally - it would be nice if he didn't speak quite so fast. But I know it's obviously because he's got a very intelligent mind, does his razor-sharp analysis and then wants the information out there.....
He's certainly making it his business to keep a pretty sharp eye on all this.
Me - I like to see channels by people who are very intelligent, very cynical and very British - and then you tend to get the best analysis imo and genuine concern.
It’s likely just a guy in Cornwall doing a conspiracy rant , you need to be careful about what you swallow CariadAgain as do we all.
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