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Labours one in one out migrant policy

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GrannyGravy13 Wed 22-Oct-25 15:23:23

Just listened to the BBC radio news.

Apparently a migrant who was flown back to France under the one in one out deal between Sir Starmer and President Macron has returned to UK on a small boat.

Who couldn’t foresee this happening 🤷‍♀️

Mt61 Sat 25-Oct-25 13:05:41

Mt61

None! They are all useless.

Maybee70

Mt61 Sat 25-Oct-25 13:05:17

None! They are all useless.

Allira Fri 24-Oct-25 20:57:38

Nadine Dorries was on Question Time and didn't manage to make any sense about Reform's policy
Has she ever made any sense?

Allira Fri 24-Oct-25 20:56:54

GrannyGravy13

escaped

Did I hear this right just now?
In a week where a one in one out migrant makes his way back to the UK from France, we now have the locked up Epping Hotel migrant, awaiting deportation, accidently disappearing?
Things usually come in threes they say, so we have to wonder whats next?
You really couldn't make it up!

The escapee has been papped in Chelmsford city centre, wearing his prisoner uniform and carrying his belongings in a see through polythene bag.

He was chatting away to two pals 🤷‍♀️

A prison officer is under investigation.

£££? If so, how, where from?

Maremia Fri 24-Oct-25 19:17:36

Sorry thought you were asking me.

Maremia Fri 24-Oct-25 19:16:25

Well, for starters, I think the Tories were quite ineffectual.
Nadine Dorries was on Question Time and didn't manage to make any sense about Reform's policy.
Haven't heard what the Green Party or the Liberals would do.
Perhaps other GNs would wish to fill in on this?
At the moment Labour is in power, so they will just have to be the ones.
Who do you think could pull it off?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 24-Oct-25 19:01:10

escaped

Did I hear this right just now?
In a week where a one in one out migrant makes his way back to the UK from France, we now have the locked up Epping Hotel migrant, awaiting deportation, accidently disappearing?
Things usually come in threes they say, so we have to wonder whats next?
You really couldn't make it up!

The escapee has been papped in Chelmsford city centre, wearing his prisoner uniform and carrying his belongings in a see through polythene bag.

He was chatting away to two pals 🤷‍♀️

MayBee70 Fri 24-Oct-25 19:01:10

Mt61

Maremia

So, what you are saying PaynesGrey is that the Labour Government is taking actual real steps to tackle the situation?
They are doing it now.
Would some Posters prefer they wait 14 years and do nothing useful?

No do something, they might achieve something by year fourteen, if they manage to stay in power

So which party do you think would be capable of achieving something?

escaped Fri 24-Oct-25 18:56:59

Did I hear this right just now?
In a week where a one in one out migrant makes his way back to the UK from France, we now have the locked up Epping Hotel migrant, awaiting deportation, accidently disappearing?
Things usually come in threes they say, so we have to wonder whats next?
You really couldn't make it up!

SporeRB Fri 24-Oct-25 13:32:33

You have to laugh at this one in, one out policy otherwise you end up crying.

As far as I know, Keir Starmer is talking to the leaders of the West Balkans countries to set up return hubs in their country whereby the illegal migrants from UK are send there before they are deported.

Albania said 'No Way!' Montenegro said ‘Yes if UK is willing to invest 10 billion euros into their railway system.’

All I can say is this small boat problem is costing UK a fortune.

The irony is to reset Brexit, Keir Starmer is under pressure to start the EU youth mobility scheme whereby at a guess 100k to 200k young people from EU will be eligible to work, study or volunteer in the UK for a few years.

So, the pressure on housing, NHS is not going to improve any time soon.

I am more worried about the economy. Unemployment at its highest since Rachel Reeves put the burden of taxes ie., higher national insurance on business and corporations.

StripeyGran Fri 24-Oct-25 08:45:36

petra

StripeyGran

Where do you hear these troubling accounts please and what would you have the RNLI do ?

Language is not ethnicity by the way.

On tv last night. A skipper who operates a volunteer rescue boat out of Boulogne. He volunteered this information without the reporter knowing this is happening.
This hideous action isn’t new.

How awful.

petra Fri 24-Oct-25 08:41:17

StripeyGran

Where do you hear these troubling accounts please and what would you have the RNLI do ?

Language is not ethnicity by the way.

On tv last night. A skipper who operates a volunteer rescue boat out of Boulogne. He volunteered this information without the reporter knowing this is happening.
This hideous action isn’t new.

petra Fri 24-Oct-25 08:17:30

Betony

I've read that the whole business of encouraging migration was started by the Blair Govt. with the aim of creating a new population of Labour voters. Well, possibly. Whatever the intention, it's turned out more like The Sorcerer's Apprentice - out of control and terrifying.

I don’t understand what you mean by started by Blair
Are you referring to 2004 when the eu opened up to 10 more countries which allowed free travel.
In that year 129,000 legal migrants arrived from these 10 countries.
Blair had the option to set a quota on the migrants but didn’t.
The overall number arriving in 2004 was 225,000

escaped Fri 24-Oct-25 08:09:52

You can judge where they come from by language, if they refuse to give information just send them back to the nearest country where it is spoken.
That's an interesting sort of concept. Without any real knowledge I'm guessing Arabic, Somali, Pashto, Dari and French. Oh, there's the name of that nearest country again for the last category - France!
However, of course it isn't that simple though.

Maremia Fri 24-Oct-25 07:35:24

Allsorts, yes, clear the backlog!!!!

Maremia Fri 24-Oct-25 07:34:18

I shall return the favour betony, yes I do.
The situation was much more under control before BREXIT, because we had a workable relationship with Europe. After BREXIT we did not gain control of our borders though did we? Is that simply my opinion?
No
There are so many figures snd statistics to demonstrate the disastrous increase after, and caused by BREXIT.
So, is it Labour 's fault?
No.
Who persuaded folk to vote for BREXIT?
Maybe it's his fault?

StripeyGran Fri 24-Oct-25 07:33:57

Where do you hear these troubling accounts please and what would you have the RNLI do ?

Language is not ethnicity by the way.

Allsorts Fri 24-Oct-25 07:13:20

You can judge where they come from by language, if they refuse to give information just send them back to the nearest country where it is spoken..This might stop them throwing paperwork into the sea. Just block any illegals, full stop, we are full. Clear the back log and stop all these reapplication attempts.
I heard a troubling account of RNLI going out to help migrants on an overfilled boat, they hung babies over the sea and said if you take some these will drown. What person does that. Migrants are ruining this country.

Teazel2 Fri 24-Oct-25 04:47:53

PaynesGrey

This was a hastily introduced policy that relies on a chaotic French government to implement.

Dominic Casciani on BBC News last night, explained a little about the legislation that’s currently before Parliament for collaboration between UK, French and German border forces.

Watch from around 4 minutes in here:

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002l4cr/bbc-news-at-ten-22102025

This isn’t an issue than can be resolved quickly. Whatever Reform say, they would encounter the same problems.

Remember, Farage rowed back on saying he would have it sorted within two weeks of coming to power, saying instead, two weeks from legislation being passed. The kinds of changse they have suggested would be unlikely to get through Parliament in a term of office even if a Reform goverment lasted that long, which, looking at the shambles in Kent CC under LInden Kemkaran, wouldn’t be long.

We all know the issues here. The UK left the EU and put itself outside of Dubin III. The UK now has to rebuild cooperation and a legal framework with other European nations. It can’t be done overnight with sticky tape.

I have just read an account by someone who worked trying to send back illegal immigrants before Brexit happened. She said it was difficult as they all claimed not to know which country they had come from as it was dark when they travelled.

Mt61 Thu 23-Oct-25 22:28:47

Maremia

So, what you are saying PaynesGrey is that the Labour Government is taking actual real steps to tackle the situation?
They are doing it now.
Would some Posters prefer they wait 14 years and do nothing useful?

No do something, they might achieve something by year fourteen, if they manage to stay in power

Mt61 Thu 23-Oct-25 22:25:28

Maremia

Which bit, in particular, is out of control?
The boats, or planned immigration?

All of it

Mt61 Thu 23-Oct-25 22:20:54

Mt61

Oh well that’s where they probably got half the fair to come back 😳

Dorisdodar

Mt61 Thu 23-Oct-25 22:19:03

Oh well that’s where they probably got half the fair to come back 😳

Betony Thu 23-Oct-25 22:01:06

Dear Maremia, Thank you for your question.
If the immigration was planned, then it was managed so badly it went out of control. The boats would appear to be a symptom of what can go wrong from bad planning. Do you have views on the subject?

Maremia Thu 23-Oct-25 21:31:28

Which bit, in particular, is out of control?
The boats, or planned immigration?