The man formerly known as Prince can fall no further....

Not only that humiliation ferry23, also the deafening silence from any quarter coming to defend any aspect of his character

Actually some friends in Germany can’t understand what all the fuss is about until it was explained that this is the Royal Family. Oh well.

I don't know what to think!

He can fall further. Some punishment - King paying all his expenses whilst living in Sandringham. All those titles were window dressing anyway, didn't mean a thing to most of us.

Smileless2012

He hasn't been charged because the evidence to bring charges isn't there. FGS, some of the responses on here are unbelievable!!!

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Now he is probably to be stripped of the title of Vice Admiral which is honorary. Good.

However, he can still be known as Commander Mountbatten-Windsor because that was his rank when he left the Royal Navy.

ronib

Actually some friends in Germany can’t understand what all the fuss is about until it was explained that this is the Royal Family. Oh well.

They can't understand the fuss over the abuse of vulnerable and some under-age girls?

These people are your friends?
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Out of all the hysteria about Andrew, nobody seems bothered by the lies that VG was found to be spouting. I don't know if Andrew was guilty of sleeping with her but as she was 16, that makes him a sleezeball not a paedophile. I have no doubt that Andrew is a liar and a cheat but until he is tried and found guilty, he has only allegedly broken the law. I worry more that the power of the press is such that the whole world is glad he has been brought to his knees.
I have no doubt that VG was a very damaged young lady who had suffered greatly but that is very different from knowing for sure that Andrew knew she was trafficked.
King Charles will pay for Andrew, not necessarily because he believes his brother guilty (although he might) but because he doesn't want the Royal Family's skeletons being aired. That is a far worse crime in his eyes than your brother being sex mad!

And Andrew is his brother icanhandthemback so I'm sure hat counts for something.

I don't know ViceVersa if he had sex with her and if he did, if he knew she was a victim of sex trafficking; for me the former is more likely to be true than the latter. As she was 17 at the time and if this happened it happened in the UK and he didn't know she'd been trafficked for sex, he didn't break the law.

Judging by what's being posted here Iam and the ongoing trial by media, it would be a very brave person who would even think about publicly defending him. Good grief, there are even posts on this thread suggesting that this is a cover up by the Royal Family and at the very least Sarah and the children being deemed 'guilty by association'.

Trial by media at it's very worse.

Quote Iam64 Sun 02-Nov-25 16:57:29
Not only that humiliation ferry23, also the deafening silence from any quarter coming to defend any aspect of his character

And having cameras following them, they would be judged harshly

Allira what are you talking about? What children? Names please.

icanhandthemback

Out of all the hysteria about Andrew, nobody seems bothered by the lies that VG was found to be spouting. I don't know if Andrew was guilty of sleeping with her but as she was 16, that makes him a sleezeball not a paedophile. I have no doubt that Andrew is a liar and a cheat but until he is tried and found guilty, he has only allegedly broken the law. I worry more that the power of the press is such that the whole world is glad he has been brought to his knees.
I have no doubt that VG was a very damaged young lady who had suffered greatly but that is very different from knowing for sure that Andrew knew she was trafficked.
King Charles will pay for Andrew, not necessarily because he believes his brother guilty (although he might) but because he doesn't want the Royal Family's skeletons being aired. That is a far worse crime in his eyes than your brother being sex mad!

Andrew may not be a nice person but he has not been tried in a court of law. He genuinely may not remember when he sent emails - how many of us can remember emails of 10 plus years ago ? I can't remember my emails from last week!
Andrew is also blamed for his relationship to a Chinese businessman - didn't the UK government ask him to procure a deal with China?
Virginia had other problems in her life such as a ban on seeing her own 3 children.

As for the new housing arrangements for Andrew - will the Crown now let out the empty building in London?

I know he's not necessarily the sharpest tool in the box but he frequently stayed in Epstein's NYC townhouse, he visited Epstein's private island on numerous occasions and flew in the plane carrying some of the (very young) girls.

And some of you are saying he had no knowledge that Epstein and Maxwell were at the very least procuring and at worst trafficking these girls for sex?

Give me a break

Are the ages of the girls given along when their names ?

ronib

Allira what are you talking about? What children? Names please.

Epstein’s conviction thst led to a prison sentence was a sexual offences against against a 14 year old girl. I don’t expect Allira was attempting to say Andrew was involved in that offence. What he did, which is incontrovertible, was to continue a close friendship with Epstein despite the offence. It involved numerous other yiung girls who were too freight to give evidence.
Andrew’s email saying they’ll play together agai is unlikely to be referring to cricket.

Anniebach

Are the ages of the girls given along when their names ?

Annie yes, the Sherrif’s department in Florida had many names. Corruption there enabled Epstein to leave prison daily to go to ‘work’

Thank you Iam, I find searching very difficult

Anniebach

Are the ages of the girls given along when their names ?

Yes.

Annie, this a fair summary from The Observer.
Florida police began investigating Epstein in 2005, a year later the fbi took over the case. In 2008 Epstein agreed to a plea for soliciting an underage girl of 14.

Andrew visited him in New York in 2009 and 2010. If protocol was followed, his personal protection police officers should have been made aware of the allegations, Epstein’s guilty plea and prison sentence.

Former head of royal protection officers said “ after the fbi investigation began I cannot see any way that royal protection officers could not have been made aware either by local police or the Americans raising the risk of their principal fraternising with Epstein (directly) with the British government, perhaps via embassies.

It’s very difficult to believe Andrew wasn’t warned. It’s easy to believe he ignored itb

Grandma70s

Pity Shakespeare isn’t around to record all this.

You said it , Grandma 70s..........

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I've never understood the seemingly endless obsession with titles and tittle tattle. But it seems to go hand in hand with the monarchy. Surely time to grow up now and get over ourselves.

Can a so called Royal who has been stripped of his title be deported,?

Just asking?

Deported to where and for what reasons WithNobsOnIt?

Thank you Iam most useful

Lizzie44

I've never understood the seemingly endless obsession with titles and tittle tattle. But it seems to go hand in hand with the monarchy. Surely time to grow up now and get over ourselves.

I honestly don’t feel the need to grow up and get over myself so far as the monarchy and AMW are concerned.

I don’t understand people who join a thread to say they have no interest in the subject