Will the Israeli government be investigated for war crimes?

It will be the tip of the iceberg WW, but it’s a start and I agree history will not be kind to Israel.

I have just watched the programme on the IDF. It's good to know that some have a conscience and know what they are told to do is wrong.

Those who have constantly supported the IDF and said they don't kill civilians need to watch this.

I think Israel will just get away with genocide, its who you know what matters.

First reading of a Bill in their Parliament to allow the death penalty for 'terrorism'.

Maremia

First reading of a Bill in their Parliament to allow the death penalty for 'terrorism'.

Well, yes, I mean they have given the death penalty to the whole of Gaza, why enshrine this in law when they have so little regard for laws of any kind.

AGAA4

I have just watched the programme on the IDF. It's good to know that some have a conscience and know what they are told to do is wrong.

Those who have constantly supported the IDF and said they don't kill civilians need to watch this.

Won't change their minds. They won't believe it's genuine. Israel has developed an incredibly convincing propoganda machine over the years.
As happens when you have a "hall pass" from the USA for far too long.

And it is this hall pass that allows Israel to put two fingers up to the rest of the international community. Nothing will change whilst the US funds Israeli killing sprees.

Yep....now I've been finding out rather more about the whole situation and it does look like "the buck stops with America". Given the huge financial problems America is currently having = I wonder if we can hope that America will have to "draw its horns in" and stop stirring it like that (though - given that it's Trumps son-in-law that has his own greedy little eyes on profit for himself personally from their plans for Gaza = let's keep fingers crossed that I'm not hoping in vain).

It's incredible to think that a few peoples personal greed (eg that son-in-law) can negatively impact on so many others.

I just wonder. At the last election it was revealed many US citizens are unaware that Israel gets more funding than all other countries combined. If more of them became aware of this I am pretty sure they would robustly protest that this money is better spent on domestic issues.

1500 buildings in Gaza have been blown up - just since the ceasefire.

Ethnic cleansing continues apace.

Whitewavemark2

1500 buildings in Gaza have been blown up - just since the ceasefire.

Ethnic cleansing continues apace.

Of course it does. And nothing is said about it because Israel got their hostages back so as far as Israel and the US is concerned that’s a job done and to hell with Gaza.

Two more dreadful headlines about Israel ,Gaza and the West Bank

Brutality and arson by settlers

A truly horrible story about the IDF using civilians to explore dangerous tunnels

This

“Domicide” is the word for the purposeful destruction of homes, and there is another for the deliberate destruction of cities: urbicide. The term, which, unlike genocide, has not been codified as a crime in international law, gained traction after the Bosnian conflict of 1992–95, in particular following the sieges of Mostar and Sarajevo.
Targeting cities ensures people have nowhere to return to. “It’s about clearing spaces of those you think are different. And it’s about consolidating your control of those spaces,” says Martin Coward, a professor at Queen Mary, University of London, and author of the 2009 book Urbicide: the Politics of Urban Destruction.”

Gaza is a special case because it is such a concentrated area, meaning the damage has been great. And its people have not been able to leave.
In academia, “There is a debate about the relationship between deliberate destruction of cities and genocide,” says Coward. “I think they are distinct, but they go hand in hand.” (A government minister’s celebration of Gaza being “flattened” was cited by South Africa as evidence in its International Court of Justice case.)

That's an unpleasant new word for my vocabulary.

Maremia

A truly horrible story about the IDF using civilians to explore dangerous tunnels

I saw that on the documentary by ITV. Some of the Palestinians they sent into the tunnels were very young girls. They did this so that it would be a Palestinian who would be killed and not an IDF soldier.
I think they have had to stop that now. It was despicable.

Israel will simply refuse to cooperate with any trial and protect any alledged offenders. Other countries could apply sanctions, but I’m pretty sure the US will always support Israel. The US caused the death of countless civilians in the Vietnam war, I don’t recall any war crime trials.

Previous war crime trial have been of leaders of the loosing side Nazis, Serbians, Rwanda war crimes

As long as people in the 'know how' keep gathering the evidence. Amnesty International has been raising funds for a while now.

AGAA4

Maremia

A truly horrible story about the IDF using civilians to explore dangerous tunnels

I saw that on the documentary by ITV. Some of the Palestinians they sent into the tunnels were very young girls. They did this so that it would be a Palestinian who would be killed and not an IDF soldier.
I think they have had to stop that now. It was despicable.

You saw this on a documentary so it must be true?🙄

Babs03

I just wonder. At the last election it was revealed many US citizens are unaware that Israel gets more funding than all other countries combined. If more of them became aware of this I am pretty sure they would robustly protest that this money is better spent on domestic issues.

That is not true in fact.
In the last year that fiscal reports were issued, Ukraine received the most aid, Israel next with far less and certainly not more than all the other countries combined.

The top aid recipient in FY 2023 — Ukraine — received more money from the US than the bottom 159 aid-receiving countries combined. Some places that receive aid are not recognized by the US Department of State as countries and are not dependencies or territories of any other sovereign country. In FY 2023, these were West Bank and Gaza ($112.0 million) and Taiwan ($136.1 million).

USAFacts.

Look at both sides. Hamas and the Palestinians are not lily white. They vow to wipe out Israel, from the river to the sea. Should the Israelis just sit back and accept this ? War crimes on both sides, it is very easy to fall back into the old way of anti Semitism which has been going on for centuries.

nanna8

Look at both sides. Hamas and the Palestinians are not lily white. They vow to wipe out Israel, from the river to the sea. Should the Israelis just sit back and accept this ? War crimes on both sides, it is very easy to fall back into the old way of anti Semitism which has been going on for centuries.

I didn’t include Hamas because many leaders have already been killed by Israel, Hamas is a terrorist organization not a government, accountable but not in the same way as state.

David, just about to make a similar comment.
Hamas has committed atrocities, but Hamas is not Palestine.

I stand corrected Allira and am going back to before the Ukraine conflict. My sources are therefore not as good as those used now.
This was, however, brought up during the last election as something that could be a bone of contention with the electorate due to excessive funding over many decades let’s say.
And whilst that continues no Israeli government is going to take much notice of what other countries think. The US enables their bully boy tactics.