Mamdani elected New York Mayor

What the misinformation trope generally means is 'you' are reading sources I don't like. It is exhausting.

I just googled knife crime in London, which I, you, and other posters on this thread are able to do.
Look it up yourself and enjoy analysing.

Oreo

Why the aggressive questioning about news sources? Are we in Court?
Nobody should assume anything about posters lives and what they do or don’t do.

Oh I see you don't like being questioned. I wonder why. Aggression is only in your head. Some want facts and the truth.

Why the aggressive questioning about news sources? Are we in Court?
Nobody should assume anything about posters lives and what they do or don’t do.

Oreo

I just looked up the stats for knife crime in London, it’s horrifying and far worse than I realised.
And far from what you have written in your above post IOMGran

Did you check previous years? Did you check other cities? Did you cherry pick the bits that validated what you want to be the case? Post your sources and I will analyse them.

Galaxy

What press do I read iomgran?

I get news from all over, Reuters, BlueSky gives pointers from experts o info, BBC World Service can be interesting, I skim the Guardian, I look at the Mail, although I don't know who most of their celebs are, like to know what's exercising that demographic, I am on Facebook for local news, our friends around the world tell us what's going on with them, I use perplexity AI to quickly fact check and go back to sources. I read a lot of scientific papers, started in 2020, as I wanted to understand the science. Always check sources and get corroboration. Where do you get yours?

I just looked up the stats for knife crime in London, it’s horrifying and far worse than I realised.
And far from what you have written in your above post IOMGran

What press do I read iomgran?

The stats with regard to women and violent crime have remained the same for a long time, particularly in regard to partner violence, the colour of government has had no impact that in decades as far as I am aware.

As Allah wills it.

And I should add some 'news' is flat out lies. Look at the rancid stuff Trump spews out daily on his Truth Social site. Very little survives a basic fact check.

Galaxy

God I hate that misinformation nonsense, it is just another way of saying you people are stupid because of the way you voted. What it means is they like democracy when it goes their way, I mean dont we all.

No, it means that you are basing your views of premises that are biased and skewed. If you love democracy you should try to dig deeper.

God I hate that misinformation nonsense, it is just another way of saying you people are stupid because of the way you voted. What it means is they like democracy when it goes their way, I mean dont we all.

Didn't see your post IOMgran when writing mine.

Oreo

Nobody has said they watch Fox, let alone ‘a lot of it’ so why continue stirring the pot about this?
We can just disagree IOMGran
London does have much violence and stabbings doesn’t it?

Well relative to the rest of the UK no. What's happening with violent crime in London, which is a massive city and has all the issues big cities have? Let's do an analysis.

Long-term decline or stability in early 2000s.

Rising violent crime since mid-2010s, over 30% increase in ten years.

Homicides peaked around 2017/18, slightly declined recently.

Knife crime and some violent offenses show recent declines.

London’s violent crime rate still below UK average.

Police funding and numbers fell in 2010s; now increasing again.

Basically we now have a government which is trying to address the systematic defunding of the police and the CJS since 2010. I was doing work for the CPS though out all that time and we produced systems that streamlined processes and enabled them to get more with fewer people. There comes a point where you simply cannot cut anymore without affecting core services, hence the 3 year backlog in the court system for women seeking justice for violent crime. All brought to us by the so called party of law and order. I know the facts, I was there, I saw the data.

Great post IOMGran

You still haven't been able to support your claim of anti-semitism, and so I may now believe that other of your claims might also be without support.

Artols
His "Defund the Police" comments were in 2023 during Black Lives Matter.
NYC paid over 114 million ($114,586,723) settling lawsuits against the NYPD that year for heavy handed and corrupt and dodgy tactics.

​Making arrests of "suspected prostitutes" for example, which involved the drive to the precinct, questioning, and paperwork, could earn officers significant overtime hours. One former sergeant was quoted saying, "You arrest 10 girls, now the whole team's making eight hours of overtime."...

Overtime pay (as a financial incentive for officers) led to mass arrests (of sex workers and clients, often with questionable evidence) as this was "easy overtime" when compared with more "serious" crime work and so then lawsuits (for false arrest) - then lots
more costs (millions in settlements.)

The stamping out of this can't be a bad thing. Let them do the job they joined to do.

Yes, his language was intemperate - but he has repeatedly apologised since (including direcly to police) and explained how he would proceed.

- Financial reasons (higher salaries and better pension benefits elsewhere)
​- Quality of life (high cost of living in NYC)
- Pressure of mandatory overtime
- ​Increased public and Political scrutiny.
- Other areas (eg Houston) actively recruiting NYPD officers to fill their ranks.
... these are existing reasons why NYPD staff are already leaving.

This analysis was written by a US historian, Heather Cox Richardson. She has been doing a daily analysis for ages now, and always backs up everything with sources. I think it cuts through to the facts rather than the spin.

November 5, 2025 (Wednesday)
New York City mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani, a member of both the Democratic Party and the Democratic Socialists of America, began his victory speech last night with a nod to Eugene V. Debs, labor organizer and Socialist candidate for president at the turn of the last century.
“The sun may have set over our city this evening, but as Eugene Debs once said: ‘I can see the dawn of a better day for humanity.’”
The 34-year-old mayor-elect’s speech went on to deliver something that was more than a victory speech. It marked a new era much like the one that had given rise to Debs himself. After more than forty years in which ordinary Americans had seen the political system being stacked against them and, over time, forgotten they had agency to change it, they had woken up.
Mamdani began by lifting up New York City’s working people, noting that “[f]or as long as we can remember,” they “have been told by the wealthy and the well-connected that power does not belong in their hands…. And yet,” he said, “over the last 12 months, you have dared to reach for something greater.”
“Tonight,” he said, “against all odds, we have grasped it. The future is in our hands.” New York, he said, had delivered “[a] mandate for change. ​​A mandate for a new kind of politics. A mandate for a city we can afford. And a mandate for a government that delivers exactly that.”
Mamdani thanked “the next generation of New Yorkers who refuse to accept that the promise of a better future was a relic of the past.” And that was the heart of his message: that democracy belongs to ordinary people. “We will fight for you,” he said, “because we are you.”
He thanked “Yemeni bodega owners and Mexican abuelas. Senegalese taxi drivers and Uzbek nurses. Trinidadian line cooks and Ethiopian aunties.” He assured “every New Yorker in Kensington and Midwood and Hunts Point” that “this city is your city, and this democracy is yours too.”
Mamdani celebrated the hard work of democracy in his win. It was a victory not just for all those who make up New York City, he said, but also for “the more than 100,000 volunteers who built this campaign into an unstoppable force…. With every door knocked, every petition signature earned, and every hard-earned conversation, you eroded the cynicism that has come to define our politics.”
With that base of Americans engaged in the work of democracy, Mamdani welcomed a new era. “There are many who thought this day would never come, who feared that we would be condemned only to a future of less, with every election consigning us simply to more of the same,” he said. “And there are others who see politics today as too cruel for the flame of hope to still burn.”
But in New York City last night, he said, “we have answered those fears…. Hope is alive. Hope is a decision that tens of thousands of New Yorkers made day after day, volunteer shift after volunteer shift, despite attack ad after attack ad. More than a million of us stood in our churches, in gymnasiums, in community centers, as we filled in the ledger of democracy.”
“And while we cast our ballots alone, we chose hope together. Hope over tyranny. Hope over big money and small ideas. Hope over despair. We won because New Yorkers allowed themselves to hope that the impossible could be made possible. And we won because we insisted that no longer would politics be something that is done to us. Now, it is something that we do.”
Mamdani promised a government that would answer to the demands of the people. It would address the city’s cost-of-living crisis, invest in education, improve infrastructure, and cut bureaucratic waste. It would, he said, work with police officers to reduce crime while also defending community safety and demanding excellence in government.
Mamdani pushed back not just against the smears thrown his way during the campaign, but also against the deliberate division of the country that has been a staple of Republican rhetoric since 1972, when President Richard Nixon’s vice president Spiro Agnew embraced his role as the key purveyor of “positive polarization.” In its place, he called for community and solidarity.
“In this new age we make for ourselves,” Mamdani said, “we will refuse to allow those who traffic in division and hate to pit us against one another…. Here, we believe in standing up for those we love, whether you are an immigrant, a member of the trans community, one of the many Black women that Donald Trump has fired from a federal job, a single mom still waiting for the cost of groceries to go down, or anyone else with their back against the wall. Your struggle is ours, too.”
Mamdani, who is Muslim (with a Hindu mother), promised to “build a City Hall that stands steadfast alongside Jewish New Yorkers and does not waver in the fight against the scourge of antisemitism. Where the more than 1 million Muslims know that they belong—not just in the five boroughs of this city, but in the halls of power.”
He called for a government of both competence and compassion. “For years,” he said, “those in City Hall have only helped those who can help them. But on January first, we will usher in a city government that helps everyone.”
Mamdani took on the problem of disinformation in modern politics, noting that “many have heard our message only through the prism of misinformation. Tens of millions of dollars have been spent to redefine reality and to convince our neighbors that this new age is something that should frighten them.” He laid that disinformation at the feet of the very wealthy in their quest to divide working Americans to make sure they retain power. “[A]s so often occurred,” he said, “the billionaire class has sought to convince those making $30 an hour that their enemies are those earning $20 an hour. They want the people to fight amongst ourselves so that we remain distracted from the work of remaking a long-broken system.”
Mamdani urged New Yorkers to embrace a “brave new course, rather than fleeing from it.” If they do, he said, “we can respond to oligarchy and authoritarianism with the strength it fears, not the appeasement it craves.”
Mamdani identified the popular momentum to defeat President Donald J. Trump, but made the point that the goal is not simply to stop Trump, but also to stop the next Trump who comes along. While his prescription focused on the avenues of resistance open to New York City government, he emphasized that for the president “to get to any of us,” he will have to “get through all of us.”
The mayor-elect called for New Yorkers to “leave mediocrity in our past,” and for Democrats to “dare to be great.” When Mamdani said, “New York, this power, it’s yours,” and told New Yorkers, “[t]his city belongs to you,” millions of Americans heard a reminder that they, too, are powerful and that the government of the United States of America belongs to them.
Mamdani won election yesterday backed by just over half the city’s voters, in an election characterized by extraordinarily high turnout. Andy Newman of the New York Times noted yesterday that in the last four New York City mayoral elections, fewer than a third of registered voters turned out. Yesterday, more than 2 million voters voted, the highest turnout for a mayoral election since 1969.
And that turnout is a key part of the story of yesterday’s Democratic wave. As Mamdani said, American voters appear, once again, to be aware of their agency in our democracy.

I don't need anyone's approval or disapproval for my news sources, how funny.

Nobody has said they watch Fox, let alone ‘a lot of it’ so why continue stirring the pot about this?
We can just disagree IOMGran
London does have much violence and stabbings doesn’t it?

Actually we do know what you are saying because we're not stupid. We just disagree. If you're watching a lot of Fox you will 'know' that London is a cess pit of violence and stabbings, but the reality is very different.

You’re welcome Arto1s and reading an echo chamber wouldn’t be very interesting to read.

Oreo thank goodness someone on here knows what I am saying.

Nobody is truly unbiased MG55 it’s just not humanly possible.The best we can hope for is to try and evaluate both sides before reaching a decision and present it on here with a bit of politeness.We can all be wrong about a person, a government and a situation at the time of writing.