The BBC. Bias is one thing. Lies and manipulation of facts entirely different.

I'm sorry Rosie but I don't monitor your posts, so have no idea what your opinions are, and so I apologise, bigly, for not being able to answer your request.

Yes, and? I'm afraid I fail to see the relevance could you please expand?

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Many times I have felt the BBC too bias regarding the near-east war giving too much time to one side and not the same amount to the other.
In addition, definitely not giving the same amount of time to the European war.

Maremia

I'm sorry Rosie but I don't monitor your posts, so have no idea what your opinions are, and so I apologise, bigly, for not being able to answer your request.

Oh dear Maremia, still adopting Trumpisms............. sorry I can't take you seriously at all.

Suits me absolutely.

Just replying to your question from yesterday.

I'm sure the BBC aren't the only ones manipulating the truth. Whoever does this it is wrong and it's not in the public interest.
However I usually check other news outlets to see if they agree and many do on the Gaza situation. Are they all lying?

MayBee70

People died that day. And Trump has let the perpetrators out of prison. So, to be honest, I don’t think anyone should defend him over this. He could have stopped it happening and he didn’t. Nothing about his character or anything he has done since makes me think he didn’t want it to happen.

That’s just what I was going to say. News stories often have bits spliced together to make use of the time available. Trump’s words encouraged the violence. He then pardoned all the perpetrators when he became President.

To be honest...shocked?
Much, much more shocked by what Trump is allowing to happen to the ordinary people of the USA.

Oh let’s not bother our heads about it , a bit of deception here and outright bias there and we don’t like Trump or Israel anyway so it’s alright.
#yesIambeingsarcastic

What was the bias the poster was highlighting?
Thought it was about using Trump's actual own words incorrectly, you know those words, sentences he actually used to NOT stop the uprising?
I have missed the bit about bias.

I admit I don’t actually know what the spliced sentence was but I think it’s important that what’s reported should be as accurate as possible and that the BBC should a trusted news source.

I don’t understand a mentality that is happy with news manipulation.

Totally regardless of what the manipulation was.

Our opinion of Trump is irrelevant.
The point is that our national treasure and much trusted and respected BBC has shown itself to be unworthy of our trust and respect.
Add to the latest scandals the Martin Bashir dishonesty setting up the late Princess Diana prior to the Panorama interview.
Time the licence fee was scrapped.

Yes, what is reported should reflect reality in every form and format of MSM.
Not just the BBC.
Yes, the BBC is the original focus, but if Posters wish to expand the discussion, expecting a condemnation of all lying, fake news etc, not just the BBC, then that is a common acceptable practice on GN threads.
To simply condemned the BBC, wouldn't that demonstrate a bias, however unconscious?

I think you need to read the report about the BBC before commenting.
The BBC used to be renowned for true, fair and ethical reporting.

And one 'wrong' broadcast wipes that out?

You can't tar all the reporters with the same brush. If there are dodgy ones at the BBC there are dodgy ones everywhere

Maremia

And one 'wrong' broadcast wipes that out?

One? Check Petra’s post yesterday and LauraNorder latest post!

Yes Maremia it does wipe out the position of trust the BBC purportedly held, as being impartial and honest and telling the truth.
What shocks me more is that so many people on here seem to condone the deliberate telling of lies, the of altering of recordings to make an even better story, and posit the belief that Trump is so bad telling a lie about him won't make any difference.

The concern is that the people fabricating the lies are those in a position of trust, and they have abused it.

"What is truth, said jesting Pilate, and walked away."

So, how many did they get 'wrong'?

Perhaps Posters aren't actually 'condoning ' lies, but calling out the bias of folk who are happy to call out the BBC, and then hail Trump as a hero?

this is all stupid.

you have to pay the licence fee to watch all news channels live, including GB news

You aren't just paying for the BBC, you are paying for the actual broadcasting "platform for all Freeview.

sigh.

I think the Beeb is great, actually. Its wonderful radio channels especially are envied all over the world

LauraNorderr

Our opinion of Trump is irrelevant.
The point is that our national treasure and much trusted and respected BBC has shown itself to be unworthy of our trust and respect.
Add to the latest scandals the Martin Bashir dishonesty setting up the late Princess Diana prior to the Panorama interview.
Time the licence fee was scrapped.

Then there was Huw Edwards. 🤮