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The BBC. Bias is one thing. Lies and manipulation of facts entirely different.

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 06-Nov-25 15:59:17

Whereas, one can choose which newspaper one buys.
You can tell this ‘edit’ manipulation of what Trump said/HAMAS propaganda etc wasn’t done by GBNews!

Shocked?
I am.

MayBee70 Sat 08-Nov-25 17:10:46

Is it a coincidence that the complaint about the BBC was either started by America or has been picked up by them. At a time when an American company is trying to buy ITV? Will we end up with a UK version of Fox News in the future?

Wyllow3 Sat 08-Nov-25 19:36:07

Clearly not.

its really, really important to keep The BBC because new TV platforms financed by big business always without fail end up in the hands of Big Money and Right Wing interests,

often international not UK

without fail, NOT any kind of middle ground.

As regards The BBC, those on the right think it is "left"
Those on the Left, see it as being to the Right.

That has to say something.

Channel 4, btw, is Channel 4 is a publicly owned but commercially run corporation in the UK,

with its parent organisation being the Department for Culture, Media and Sport
It is funded by advertising revenue and does not receive public money. While there have been government discussions about potentially privatising it, a final decision was made to keep it publicly owned with reforms to ensure its sustainability.

Long may it also exist, news wise. of course it can do what the BBC does, with the superb radio we have, nor its cultural side.

Wyllow3 Sat 08-Nov-25 19:36:59

Sorry, "cannot do" what The BBC does

Primrose53 Sat 08-Nov-25 19:47:27

This thread is about the BBC. Those who are trying to deflect should start their own thread about what they DO want to complain about, ie GB News. Just an idea!

Oreo Sat 08-Nov-25 20:37:56

MayBee70

Is it a coincidence that the complaint about the BBC was either started by America or has been picked up by them. At a time when an American company is trying to buy ITV? Will we end up with a UK version of Fox News in the future?

It wasn’t started in the US.
There’s plenty to read in the news about this if you’re interested.
Neither was it started by Tories, Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson or any of the people hated by posters.

MayBee70 Sat 08-Nov-25 20:42:13

It has been picked up by them, though.

Oreo Sat 08-Nov-25 20:45:18

So?

Wyllow3 Sat 08-Nov-25 20:53:19

Everything on the media is within the contexts and morality and memes of the times we live in.

What we see, how it's presented, how organisations functions: no one media source is separate from another. We make out judgments by comparison.

and what leads me to assert this?

Why..

GB news was part of the very O/P , was it not?

*What other proof do you want that we are in a "compare and examine current media available"

foxie48 Sun 09-Nov-25 20:13:15

Tim Davie and the Head of News, Deborah Turness, have resigned. This tells me that the BBC, despite it's lapses, is a trusted newscaster. Many of it's journalists were calling for these resignations because like many of us on here, they want an unbiased and trusted source of news. I don't think that can be said of many other news media.

Wyllow3 Sun 09-Nov-25 20:24:26

👏👏 hear, hear, Foxie.

I await resignations from GB news for Racism: and any newspaper who has consistently and deliberately used half quotes to twist the meaning into something totally different to act accordingly.

eazybee Sun 09-Nov-25 20:39:36

The Public Purposes
5. The BBC’s Mission.
The Mission of the BBC is to act in the public interest, serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.
6 The Public Purposes of the BBC are as follows.
(1) To provide impartial news and information to help people understand and engage with the world around them: the BBC should provide duly accurate and impartial news, current affairs and factual programming to build people’s understanding of all parts of the United Kingdom and of the wider world. Its content should be provided to the highest editorial standards.
From the Royal Charter.

I gather Tim Davie and Deborah Turness have gone.
They have not guarded the BBC's reputation for impartiality.

What other commercial stations have done is of no account in this issue.

Maremia Sun 09-Nov-25 21:05:19

Of course other media should be held accountable. Why not?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 09-Nov-25 21:28:16

Wyllow3

👏👏 hear, hear, Foxie.

I await resignations from GB news for Racism: and any newspaper who has consistently and deliberately used half quotes to twist the meaning into something totally different to act accordingly.

Ofcom have repeatedly checked out GBNews Wyllow but nothing untoward (or racist) has been found.

Wyllow3 Sun 09-Nov-25 21:41:18

Read this, then.

cfmm.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/CfMM-GB-News-Report-2024.pdf

Wyllow3 Sun 09-Nov-25 21:51:01

And actually Ofcom HAVE checked them out recently and reported a breach of code.

Read about it if you dont believe me.

goodlawproject.org/update/ofcom-finds-gb-news-in-breach-of-code/

Wyllow3 Sun 09-Nov-25 21:52:07

But dont expect it to appear in the Telegraph, FGT?

LizzieDrip Sun 09-Nov-25 21:52:48

Ofcom have repeatedly checked out GBNews Wyllow but nothing untoward (or racist) has been found

This is not true FGT. See below from ChatGPT:

At least four Ofcom breach findings / sanction decisions against GB News remain on the public record (i.e. still upheld / not withdrawn as of 13 Mar 2025). Those are:

1.Mark Steyn — broadcast 21 April 2022 — Ofcom found this edition in breach (materially misleading / accuracy concerns). 
2.Mark Steyn (interview with Naomi Wolf) — broadcast 4 October 2022 — Ofcom found this edition in breach (harmful / potentially affecting health choices). 

3.The Live Desk — (decision published 18 Dec 2023) — Ofcom found this programme in breach of due-impartiality rules. 

4.People’s Forum: The Prime Minister — broadcast 12 Feb 2024 — Ofcom imposed a £100,000 statutory fine (sanction decision published 31 Oct 2024) for breaching the special impartiality requirements. 

Oreo Sun 09-Nov-25 21:53:23

I get the distinct feeling that a few posters are ruffled by the BBC having its knuckles rapped.

Wyllow3 Sun 09-Nov-25 23:34:23

Hmmmmm.

I get the feeling your feathers have just been ruffled too, as truths are revealed

And its only just been coming out now

as a result of and O/P

that has a go at The BBC and declares herself "shocked"

but alludes to GB news ?

MayBee70 Mon 10-Nov-25 00:23:03

Lies and manipulation of facts. Isn’t that Trump’s superpower?

Wyllow3 Mon 10-Nov-25 01:29:04

1am, end of the R4 night.

The fishing forecast, beloved of so many years and serving an important community.

God Save the King - played every night.

News - (world news, of course, as to flips to world service.
Donald Trump thanks the BBC for the truth. (oh the irony, but we'll leave that now
Women in Afghanistan - more grim news

6am will open for farmers.

What is wrong with some of you?

This is our BBC, serving us for so many years.

Galaxy Mon 10-Nov-25 06:20:27

What is wrong with me because I question issues relating to the BBC? To answer your questions - articles relating to royals and farming doesn't mean I don't have expectations on the BBC functioning as an unbiased source of information rather than a tool for activists. Oh and as I now view the BBC as influenced by misogynists, I would not be interested in their reports on women in Afghanistan, and that is the problem with what they have done.

Wyllow3 Mon 10-Nov-25 07:52:23

I don't think there is anything wrong with you, Galaxy I accept you have very strong views and it will always be so and will give you a strong POV on many subjects in N and P?

Wyllow3 Mon 10-Nov-25 07:53:56

My reaction was "good for The BBC for reporting it" fwiw.

Oreo Mon 10-Nov-25 08:05:30

Wyllow3

Hmmmmm.

I get the feeling your feathers have just been ruffled too, as truths are revealed

And its only just been coming out now

as a result of and O/P

that has a go at The BBC and declares herself "shocked"

but alludes to GB news ?

What a bizarre comment 🤔
Why on earth should my feathers be ruffled? What truths?
I couldn’t care less if GB News or any other media outlets get their knuckles rapped if they transgress, but there are def some feathers ruffled on this thread by those who seem angry that the BBC is getting some flak over their behaviour.
I do know why of course… it’s the subject matter of Trump and Israel.Somehow bias and unethical reporting don’t matter to them because of this.If it was about Biden and Gaza they’d feel very differently.Forget the subject matter it’s about truthful reporting which we trust the BBC to do more than any other news outlets.Tim Davie had to go.