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Pro Palestinian crowds shrieking and yelling at the Aston Villa Park Stadium

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Oreo Thu 06-Nov-25 19:37:17

I just knew that the pro Palestinians would cause trouble at Aston Villa Park tonight! No Tel Aviv fans here just the team playing a match.Just hope the police can contain them, it looks a real shambles at the moment.Why didn’t the police throw a wide cordon around the ground so that the Villa fans can get in?The pro Palestinian mob is right next to the ground itself.

Caleo Sun 09-Nov-25 12:39:19

Important to note that one factor that makes a huge difference between sectarianism in Glasgow, and sectarianism in Israel and Palestine is that for Israelis and Palestinians, land itself is a religious value, whereas in Glasgow Catholics and Protestants no longer live in religiously segregated parts of the city.

growstuff Sun 09-Nov-25 12:48:21

Caleo Some of the Maccabi anti-Arab chants go beyond "fun". Rape and killing aren't topics for fun, especially given the situation in Gaza and the West Bank. Not only that, but in Amsterdam, they weren't confined to the ground itself, but the wider city and even people of Arab appearance who weren't fans.

Maremia Sun 09-Nov-25 12:54:29

Wasn't one of the chants that the Gaza schools are closed because the children are dead?
Taunting and mocking.

Caleo Sun 09-Nov-25 13:05:04

growstuff

Caleo Some of the Maccabi anti-Arab chants go beyond "fun". Rape and killing aren't topics for fun, especially given the situation in Gaza and the West Bank. Not only that, but in Amsterdam, they weren't confined to the ground itself, but the wider city and even people of Arab appearance who weren't fans.

I think Celtic and Rangers were also violent and murderous. I used Rangers and Celtic as a means to compare the differences in scale and culture with Israel and Palestine.

It is important we all understand what motivates people.

Lathyrus3 Sun 09-Nov-25 15:59:14

Oh I see now rereading your post StoneofDestiny.

I thought you were making a comparison of two things that were the same ie an attack by the Government of Gaza and an attack by the Government of Ireland and the retaliation that would occur.

If you’re not making Government to Government comparisons I don’t really see the point of your post.

Babs03 Sun 09-Nov-25 18:25:11

Hamas functions as the de facto governing authority in the Gaza Strip but is not a recognized sovereign government because Palestinians have no sovereignty, they are also referred to as terrorists quite liberally until the subject matter demands they incorrectly be called a government.
So the comparison with the IRA which was the terrorist arm of the political group Sin Fein is worth making.

Lathyrus3 Mon 10-Nov-25 10:15:47

I think your post just confirms what I was saying Babs. Ireland and the UK were two sovereign states dealing with dissident groups within their own territories, agreeing to bring to trial members of those groups who carried out or supported violent acts.

I can’t see the connection in the suggestion that the UK might have carried out bombing on a cooperative neighbour country as retaliation for the acts of a disassociated group.

The comparison was utterly irrelevant and unfair on the Irish Government of that time.