BBC expected to apologise for doctoring Trump videos

Whitewavemark2

fancythat

Anyone who backs this foreigner against our own state is a traitor, simple as.

What if it is our own state that is wrong?

You have a vote

I am not sure if I am misunderstanding your reply, ot if it has no relevance to what I posted.

A lie was perpetuated by the BBC, and reading through the posts on this thread it is sadly apparent that there are many who are prepared to condone it because of a visceral hatred of Trump.

It does not matter who the subject of the falsification was, the BBC has betrayed the trust placed in it. It has not maintained the duty of impartiality as cited in its charter.
That is what important.

eazybee

A lie was perpetuated by the BBC, and reading through the posts on this thread it is sadly apparent that there are many who are prepared to condone it because of a visceral hatred of Trump.

It does not matter who the subject of the falsification was, the BBC has betrayed the trust placed in it. It has not maintained the duty of impartiality as cited in its charter.
That is what important.

Very well said.

Excellent post eazybee

I haven't seen any posts that condone it but wanting to blame a whole organisation for this is is ridiculous.
Two of the top people have stepped down.
Do people really want to see the end of the BBC and rely on GB
news and others who have done much worse?
I can see a worrying manipulation going on here.

They obviously felt it was serious enough for the head to resign .At least he did the honourable thing which gives me hope things might change in the future.

Yes eazybee

The point is you have been manipulated by the BBC, on numerous issues, as people are saying repeatedly the report covers, middle east, Trump, womens rights and so on.

fancythat

^Anyone who backs this foreigner against our own state is a traitor, simple as. ^

What if it is our own state that is wrong?

Whether our state is right or wrong is none of any other state's business. It's up to our citizens to act. I think that's why Wwmk2 said that you have a vote.

With all the trouble that has been caused in this world with states interfering in other states' affairs don't you think that condoning interference in our state's business is not the brightest move?

ronib

Trump has consistently claimed that the UK has fake news. He has exposed the problem and now hard evidence is hard to ignore.

Kettle and pot.
Speck and beam.
Doesn't make it right, but it’s funny in a sick sort of way, that the accuser is Trump.
Grandmabatty I like your post.

AGAA4

I haven't seen any posts that condone it but wanting to blame a whole organisation for this is is ridiculous.
Two of the top people have stepped down.
Do people really want to see the end of the BBC and rely on GB
news and others who have done much worse?
I can see a worrying manipulation going on here.

I'm at a loss to understand what these rigid moralists (who seem to drink in every word of GB 'News') want to achieve by the destruction of the BBC.

I'm at a loss to understand what these rigid moralists (who seem to drink in every word of GB 'News') want to achieve by the destruction of the BBC.
More power for their own news channel?

Mollygo

^I'm at a loss to understand what these rigid moralists (who seem to drink in every word of GB 'News') want to achieve by the destruction of the BBC.^
More power for their own news channel?

I can see that, provided they are prepared to accept the same level of scrutiny and sanction. If they don’t, it seems hypocritical.

eazybee

A lie was perpetuated by the BBC, and reading through the posts on this thread it is sadly apparent that there are many who are prepared to condone it because of a visceral hatred of Trump.

It does not matter who the subject of the falsification was, the BBC has betrayed the trust placed in it. It has not maintained the duty of impartiality as cited in its charter.
That is what important.

You are spot on Eazybee. 👏👏🥺

Galaxy

The point is you have been manipulated by the BBC, on numerous issues, as people are saying repeatedly the report covers, middle east, Trump, womens rights and so on.

If that was for me? No I haven't been manipulated as I check other news eg Reuters to see if news agrees.
As for the gender issue I have never agreed with any news that states that a man can be a woman and it wasn't only the BBC who promoted that preposterous lie.

Well maybe you are then able to accept that those of us expressing concern about the BBC aren't being manipulated and are perfectly able to do our own thinking.

But there’s a real possibility that the US government could sue the BBC for unlawful interference in another country’s elections and I can’t see one billion dollars being sufficient compensation. As well as defamation? Also the case won’t be heard in the UK but in Florida I think. Bring it on?

MaizieD

fancythat

Anyone who backs this foreigner against our own state is a traitor, simple as.

What if it is our own state that is wrong?

Whether our state is right or wrong is none of any other state's business. It's up to our citizens to act. I think that's why Wwmk2 said that you have a vote.

With all the trouble that has been caused in this world with states interfering in other states' affairs don't you think that condoning interference in our state's business is not the brightest move?

I still dont understand the vote thing.

Whether our state is right or wrong is none of any other state's business

Of course it is if
A national state broadcasting corporation is doctoring the word.s. And especially if those words are of another nation's leader!

2nd paragraph - you dont think that the US or any other nation should do anything or say anything in the case of Russ ia/Ukraine?

Galaxy

Well maybe you are then able to accept that those of us expressing concern about the BBC aren't being manipulated and are perfectly able to do our own thinking.

Thinking that the BBC should be finished. Not great thinking.

The BBC brought this calamity on its own head. Don’t expect the hapless taxpayer to foot the bill.

ronib

But there’s a real possibility that the US government could sue the BBC for unlawful interference in another country’s elections and I can’t see one billion dollars being sufficient compensation. As well as defamation? Also the case won’t be heard in the UK but in Florida I think. Bring it on?

Lawyers seem to agree that there is little likelihood of such a claim going anywhere. He's have to pursue it through the British courts and he's out of time to make a claim, for a start.

ronib

The BBC brought this calamity on its own head. Don’t expect the hapless taxpayer to foot the bill.

Trump will find it difficult to sue now. He has to abide by UK law and he is out of time. His case can't be heard in Florida as the programme wasn't broadcast in the US. We will see.

Looking ahead.

I would very much like to see a non-political well regarded and independent journalist as the next DG.

“Why does it matter? We have seen, the world over, that populist and authoritarian leaders move swiftly to diminish or kill off public service media. It suits them to (in the words of Steve Bannon) “flood the zone with shit”, so no one knows who or what to believe.
It suits them to have all the channels of social media to be concentrated in the hands of a few billionaires, who then duly fall in line. It suits them that much of the mainstream news media is economically on its last legs—and that its ownership is concentrated into fewer and fewer hands.
Look no further than the Daily Telegraph, which reported the BBC’s difficulties with such glee last week. One past owner went to jail. The next proprietors—strange and reclusive tax exiles—turned out to be walking bankrupts. For the last two years, the paper has been stuck in purgatory, furiously protesting about the probity of the only people willing to stump up the asking price. From these lofty heights, its writers seek to demolish a funding model which sustains a vast output of local, national and international journalism. And which, according to a recent YouGov poll, beat the Telegraph for trust by a full 22 points.
Or look at the Murdochs, who have been campaigning for years, if not decades, to finish off the BBC. The BBC’s ethical and editorial failings are as nothing to the wild fraudulent and criminal excesses of the past 25 years in Murdochland. Executives going to jail. Literally billions paid out in legal costs and damages. Admissions that they knowingly broadcast lies about Trump’s defeat in 2020. Suspicions, which they naturally deny, that they employed armies of private detectives for commercial and political ends as well as journalistic snooping.
And that’s before we even mention the Big Tech algorithms that promote division, noise, fury and discord over measured, fact-based reporting and analysis.
Trump’s press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, last night gleefully retweeted the president’s charge that Davie and Turner were “corrupt” so-called journalists, and instructed people to watch GB News instead. Nigel Farage would love that.
We have a choice. We can regain a sense of proportion and support the BBC as it tries to dig itself out of its current hole, some of which is undoubtedly of its own making. We could, if we wish, embrace something like the current US media landscape, with its near-collapse into information ”
Part of an article by A. Rushbridger
10\11\25
Prospect.

Gosh, WhiteWave, enjoyed that read.

Bit of a 'problem' here for whoever was the OP of that very recent Thread about criminal Kurds.
Hate to point out that it was the BBC who investigated the crimes, so, if you no longer trust the BBC, should that whole Thread be removed?