The Hokey Cokey … migrant crossings - 1,000 in;

I overheard at the bowls club today someone saying that this country is finished and they feel sorry for their grandson!

One in one out (thought it's actually one in, one out, and then a different one in plus their family) seems to be working as well as smashing the gangs.

How did I possibly know you were the author FGT do you never tire of the same old anti immigrant headlines 🤣

It's ridiculous isn't it.

It isn't FGT's fault that there aren't any positive headlines when it comes to immigration BlueBelle.

Would you like to tell us all how well it’s coming along then BlueBelle? You know, “smash the gangs” and all that.

Labour had 14 years in Opposition. They had time to come up with a plan, especially as first week in office they took away the only deterrent - Rwanda.

Now? More migrants than ever coming over under Labour. And have you seen the size of the rubber boats now? We are going to have to start calling them small ships soon.

Sorry to disappoint some Posters but since June 2024, under Labour, there has been a 28 per cent increased return of failed asylum seekers, compared to the previous year, under the Tories.

Labour say the immigrant will be returned AGAIN 🤣

2,000 have arrived in the past few days and a tiny handful have been returned Maremia something like 30!!

300 arrived on Remembrance Sunday.

They will keep coming too because they know they will most likely be allowed to stay here.

Smileless2012

It's ridiculous isn't it.

It isn't FGT's fault that there aren't any positive headlines when it comes to immigration BlueBelle.

Maybe GB news has something more positive to headline their program.

Maremia

Sorry to disappoint some Posters but since June 2024, under Labour, there has been a 28 per cent increased return of failed asylum seekers, compared to the previous year, under the Tories.

The government figures have never differentiated between illegal migrants being removed and people over staying their visas.
The majority of people removed are over stayers. Not illegal migrants.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/returns-of-unauthorised-migrants-from-the-uk/

I was reading today that the total number of migrants so far this year ( under Labour’s Smash the Gangs plan) would fill a town the size of Leeds.

In one year. And next year? Equivalent to the population of Birmingham?

JenniferEccles

I was reading today that the total number of migrants so far this year ( under Labour’s Smash the Gangs plan) would fill a town the size of Leeds.

In one year. And next year? Equivalent to the population of Birmingham?

That includes immigrants with visas, who are here perfectly legitimately and have paid for their visas and NHS surcharge. They also pay income tax (if they work) and other taxes when they buy anything. It also includes students, who are currently propping up our universities and subsidising fees for home students. Moreover, there's a "churn" with students. Hundreds of thousands come for one year and then go home, as more hundreds of thousands come for a year and go home ... and so on.

Leeds has a population of 812,000. No way have there been 812,000 immigrants who wouldn't have come, even if the gangs had been smashed. The country actually needs most of its immigrants.

petra

Maremia

Sorry to disappoint some Posters but since June 2024, under Labour, there has been a 28 per cent increased return of failed asylum seekers, compared to the previous year, under the Tories.

The government figures have never differentiated between illegal migrants being removed and people over staying their visas.
The majority of people removed are over stayers. Not illegal migrants.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/returns-of-unauthorised-migrants-from-the-uk/

Overstayers are illegal immigrants. As you say quite rightly, most immigrants here illegally are visa overstayers. Asylum seekers are not here illegally, unless their application is refused.

What ? If they come to the country by illegal means with no passports ? Good grief. Everyone can come to your country then, why bother paying for a passport or visa, waste of time and money.

nanna8

What ? If they come to the country by illegal means with no passports ? Good grief. Everyone can come to your country then, why bother paying for a passport or visa, waste of time and money.

Under international law, it is not illegal to arrive in a country and claim asylum. If the system worked efficiently, claims for asylum would be processed quickly and those not eligible for asylum could be returned ... to somewhere. And that's the first problem, if it's not known where the country of origin is, where should they be returned to? The UK can't just fly people to some random country and dump them because the country might refuse to accept them and would fly them back. There have to be international agreements.

No, nanna, people can't stay indefinitely or work if they don't have a visa. It's not a waste of time and money.

Also, Labour is moving to change the terms and conditions for people being given settled status, making Britain a less favourable destination for 'economic' migrants.
That is an 'improvement'.
Labour can do nothing to change the need for people to flee war zones.

No Primrose, the rules are changing and it is the Labour government that is changing them.

Teazel2

I overheard at the bowls club today someone saying that this country is finished and they feel sorry for their grandson!

At the bowls club? Must be true then.

Could that be counted as 'anecdotal'?

And what are the new rules?
They won’t be beneficial to anyone except the illegal immigrants I should imagine.
This government is a joke, not a backbone between them and the previous one was no better.

This one went in reverse.
No passport
No papers
1 out
0 in
🦩

nanna8

What ? If they come to the country by illegal means with no passports ? Good grief. Everyone can come to your country then, why bother paying for a passport or visa, waste of time and money.

I know, madness isn’t it?

Oreo

nanna8

What ? If they come to the country by illegal means with no passports ? Good grief. Everyone can come to your country then, why bother paying for a passport or visa, waste of time and money.

I know, madness isn’t it?

A former Border Force official was on TV last night and he said the people coming on dinghies are here illegally in his opinion.

Easy to google that for yourself LadyGracie and perhaps come back with the information you have gleaned?

Illegal 'in his opinion' is exactly that, just his opinion.