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New asylum rules

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Mollygo Mon 17-Nov-25 13:46:28

^Under the plans, asylum seekers will be returned home if their country is deemed safe, most will have to wait 20 years to apply to settle permanently, with deportations sped up when claims are rejected.
I’d like to know,
Who decides when and if a country is safe?
What do you think.

TheatreLover Thu 20-Nov-25 13:49:13

MaizieD

^I was sorry to see that both StripeyGran and Growstuff have been banished, and hope they can be reinstated.^

How do you know that?

It always amazes me how people get to know things grin

I do hope they are reinstated, growstuff in particular. She's a long standing and knowledgeable poster, if a bit tetchy at times.

I'm sorry if I got that wrong. Another poster said that StripeyGran can't post right now, just as Growstuff can't anymore, so I apologise to the two posters concerned. Should I ask for my incorrect post to be deleted.

MayBee70 Thu 20-Nov-25 13:52:53

ronib

The next big performance is a discussion about Farage as a day boy at Dulwich College. Some reports in The Guardian (of course) are obviously intended to smear but it sounds a bit desperate? Predictable too?

I assume you’ve heard of the things he said and did in his youth ( Nazi sympathiser etc). What’s wrong with the electorate knowing these things?

Babs03 Thu 20-Nov-25 14:08:13

Aveline

Have they been banned or maybe just stopped contributing to this thread?

They have been banned.

Babs03 Thu 20-Nov-25 14:11:31

I agree with WWM news &politics in particular will be all the poorer for not having their contributions. And would warn against posters piling onto one poster, is mob mentality and quite often the poster will snap and say something ill thought out. Sadly GN haven’t to time to sift through pile ons.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Nov-25 14:17:50

The trouble not having time babs is that decisions will of necessity be poor and ill thought out.

Babs03 Thu 20-Nov-25 14:18:52

Whitewavemark2

The trouble not having time babs is that decisions will of necessity be poor and ill thought out.

I agree 😞

Aveline Thu 20-Nov-25 14:57:57

How do you know if someone has been banned? I've seen posts deleted but not seen anything to say a poster has been actually banned? Not being awkward, I just want to understand whats going on.

MaizieD Thu 20-Nov-25 14:59:41

TheatreLover

MaizieD

I was sorry to see that both StripeyGran and Growstuff have been banished, and hope they can be reinstated.

How do you know that?

It always amazes me how people get to know things grin

I do hope they are reinstated, growstuff in particular. She's a long standing and knowledgeable poster, if a bit tetchy at times.

I'm sorry if I got that wrong. Another poster said that StripeyGran can't post right now, just as Growstuff can't anymore, so I apologise to the two posters concerned. Should I ask for my incorrect post to be deleted.

Oh, I'm not saying you got it wrong, no ned to apologise. I'm just always surprised how people get to know these things. I was the mum at the school gate who always got to hear things last😆

fancythat Thu 20-Nov-25 15:07:52

Aveline

How do you know if someone has been banned? I've seen posts deleted but not seen anything to say a poster has been actually banned? Not being awkward, I just want to understand whats going on.

There seems to be a surprising amount of talk behind the scenes.

fancythat Thu 20-Nov-25 15:08:50

Especially by posters who have been here the longest.

Iam64 Thu 20-Nov-25 15:09:00

Catching up and sharing the general feeling that Growstuff and stripey contribute interesting points of view.

I appreciate the mods follow guidelines but recently it’s seemed looking at one post in isolation can result in bans or suspensions. I also find it hard not to conclude targeting and provoking an issue

Does anyone know if it’s a brief suspension or a ban. I can’t imagine either of them deserving a ban and I’m concerned even if suspended

Kandinsky Thu 20-Nov-25 15:13:50

I don’t know much about stripeygran but I always found growstuff extremely confrontational.

MaizieD Thu 20-Nov-25 15:19:04

Kandinsky

I don’t know much about stripeygran but I always found growstuff extremely confrontational.

We all have different opinions about posters and make different judgements,

IMO I don't think either have seriously breached the guidelines.

rafichagran Thu 20-Nov-25 15:37:08

I never saw anything that J thought broke the rules by Stripeygran or Growstuff could anybody say how they know if they have been banned or suspended?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Nov-25 15:38:00

Kandinsky

I don’t know much about stripeygran but I always found growstuff extremely confrontational.

Confrontational is another persons challenge.

So we can all be challenging at times. It is to be expected if not desirably so on threads like N&P.

I would advise posters who prefer not to be challenged to avoid challenging threads.

However, I would also like to see posters much less willing to push the reported button and deal with the challenging thread in a more mature way.

And how about people being adult enough to say that they think that the post is reportable, and give the poster a chance either to detract the post or explain in more depth what they mean.

Surely we can deal with this without running to GN!!

We just need to persuade them to reinstate the latest lot of bans - it really is getting a bit ridiculous - and perhaps we can all agree a way forward without continually reporting?

MayBee70 Thu 20-Nov-25 15:39:16

fancythat

Especially by posters who have been here the longest.

People know each other in the real world from meet ups etc. although there don’t seem to be as many meet ups as there used to be.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Nov-25 15:41:33

They are banned. I know this because when I was banned for a couple of days, they were kind enough to seek out my private email through another friend on GN and so they have contacted me since.

Growstuff had no idea that she had been banned. GN simply did not have the manners to tell her until she enquired. I do think that they need a re-think.

fancythat Thu 20-Nov-25 15:49:11

^ It is to be expected if not desirably so on threads like N&P.
^

Desirably? Nope.

To be clear, I have neither read nor reported the two banned posters. Ever.
Have not a clue what has been going on.

MayBee70 Thu 20-Nov-25 15:49:40

We’ve also lost Claremont who is one of the nicest people you could ever meet.

Kandinsky Thu 20-Nov-25 15:50:12

Confrontational is another persons challenge

If I wanted a challenge I’d put myself forward for the London Marathon.
I don’t want a challenge - I just want to chat ( occasionally ) about political issues calmly.
Growstuff was a poster who stopped me from coming on here. Her posting style was just too aggressive. I’m sure she’s lovely in real life but she did come across as very angry.

Kandinsky Thu 20-Nov-25 15:53:18

I didn’t report her btw. I didn’t report either of them. In fact I’ve only ever reported a handful of posts and they were months ago.

Aveline Thu 20-Nov-25 15:53:27

Gosh. You'd think GN moderators would actually inform someone that they'd been banned. Doesn't seem fair. I expect this thread will be closed down now.

fancythat Thu 20-Nov-25 15:56:07

Aveline

Gosh. You'd think GN moderators would actually inform someone that they'd been banned. Doesn't seem fair. I expect this thread will be closed down now.

Maybe she got a "if you break the guidelines again, we will ban you" type message.
Just guessing.

fancythat Thu 20-Nov-25 15:57:57

MayBee70

We’ve also lost Claremont who is one of the nicest people you could ever meet.

Gosh

fancythat Thu 20-Nov-25 15:59:46

It is not that difficult to keep within the guidelines.

Perhaps some posters need to think a bit differently, going forward.
Especially when on the n&p threads.

A wrong attitude in general is not helpful to anyone.

Though I appreciate there are many posters with ill health.
In pain. Bereavement etc.
Which can all, understandably, alter moods.