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We are definitely in the Last Chance Saloon if Farage gets into power.
On the other hand, if his Politicians are as durable as his Councillors?

Thanks for your post Allira, I respect your view, but we will have to agree to disagree on this issue I’m afraid.

Sad state of affairs when people delight in getting posts deleted.

Is it counter productive for GN to delete posts? I am frequently late to a Thread, and miss out on finding out what sort of response is 'acceptable' and what is not.
Also, how much of what is being chosen for reporting is simply 'in the eye of the beholder'?

Posts are only deleted if they are against the guidelines of GNHQ

They are not deleted because a posters disagrees with or dislikes a post…

Casdon

Thanks for your post Allira, I respect your view, but we will have to agree to disagree on this issue I’m afraid.

Thanks for your reply, Casdon.

I didn't want to fall out with you!

ronib

Can’t help feel that Reform and Nigel Farage (sitting in the Spectator’s Gallery in the Commons) will expand their influence if Starmer doesn’t get a firm grip on small boats and the economy (more importantly). Currently it feels as if Reform is presenting as The Last Chance Saloon….

This puzzled me:

Nigel Farage (sitting in the Spectator’s Gallery in the Commons)

Why? As an MP shouldn't he be sitting in the House? What am I missing?

Allegedly Farage performed in the Spectators' Gallery, supposedly to make a point about not being asked to pose a question in Parliament.
It was then revealed that one of the reasons he was not asked to speak was because he rarely, if ever, formally submitted a question.
Public 'Performance' for him, seems to take precedence over 'doing the day job'.

Oh dear.
He's had over a year to learn the procedures.

Allira

Oh dear.
He's had over a year to learn the procedures.

You don't think that 'procedures' are of any interest to him, do you? 😆

It's all performative, isn't it?

The next big performance is a discussion about Farage as a day boy at Dulwich College. Some reports in The Guardian (of course) are obviously intended to smear but it sounds a bit desperate? Predictable too?

GrannyGravy13

Posts are only deleted if they are against the guidelines of GNHQ

They are not deleted because a posters disagrees with or dislikes a post…

Apparently not strictly true. GN do and have admitted making mistakes and indeed recognise that some posts that are against the guidelines stay, as well as some posts on reflection should not have been deleted. Largely I think - reading between the lines because they are not employing enough mods.

So it is a bit of a lottery.

ronib

The next big performance is a discussion about Farage as a day boy at Dulwich College. Some reports in The Guardian (of course) are obviously intended to smear but it sounds a bit desperate? Predictable too?

His behaviour at school has been in the public arena for years now. His headmaster recognised this.

Farage is not the most pleasant of individuals.

But ronib I don't think he'll be the first (or last) to have people talk about public figures when they were young.

It can be interesting (and enlightening?).

My husband was art school with several people in the public eye (some he knew well). "Oh it's x, he was always supremely boring" or "Look at that pompous (?) - no change there then" followed by a story

"Well look at that - he seems to have really changed considering how xyz in his teens."

I find it interesting how so many are replicas of their younger self and the huge changes are genuinely quite rare.

*at school (not "art school" sorry

Babs03

StripeyGran can’t say anything right now. Just as Growstuff can’t anymore. Seems that somebody has a hit list.
Makes me wonder why I even bother with this site anymore.
Cancelling people out is horrible.

I was sorry to see that both StripeyGran and Growstuff have been banished, and hope they can be reinstated.

A poster was banished a few weeks ago, and reinstated the following day. It was good to see that GNHQ acted so quickly in that case.

Not sure what’s the point in banning people if they’re reinstated the next day?

I was sorry to see that both StripeyGran and Growstuff have been banished, and hope they can be reinstated.

How do you know that?

It always amazes me how people get to know things

I do hope they are reinstated, growstuff in particular. She's a long standing and knowledgeable poster, if a bit tetchy at times.

I had no idea growstuff had been banned.

Is it temporary (naughty step) or permanent?

ronib

The next big performance is a discussion about Farage as a day boy at Dulwich College. Some reports in The Guardian (of course) are obviously intended to smear but it sounds a bit desperate? Predictable too?

You know the old saying, don't you, ronib?

"The child is the father to the man"

MaizieD I hope growstuff is reinstated.

We seldom agreed, but both of us admitted when we did.

I hope those banned are reinstated, seems to have happened a few times over the past few weeks to different posters none of whom were abusive or disruptive. And in my book getting tetchy because of a pile on doesn’t count. I have responded like this in these circumstances and am pretty sure others have too.
But as WWM said is a bit of a lottery. GN/MNHQ have so many posts to deal with and so many reports from individual posters above other posters they dislike, that quite often decisions are not made thoroughly and mistakes can happen.
But I think we can help reduce the chance of posters being banned by not reporting them unless they have been completely dreadful and need to go. Simply not liking someone and so wanting to silence them is not how this site should work. And I do think that in this case there are those who have conspired to cause a banning.
However, that is my opinion, and is no reflection upon GN who cannot keep on top of everything but do their best in the majority of cases.

Have they been banned or maybe just stopped contributing to this thread?

The issue with banning people is that they often contribute a lot to the site as a whole, both knowledgeably and with grace, as a result gain respect from fellow posters.

A few years ago people were banned initially for a short period, the reason was explained both to the person banned and posters at large, and this makes much more sense than the system they seem to have now, which is veiled and sudden. Moderators were also much more approachable and we knew them by name, indeed they occasionally joined into threads. Now if you contact GN they are much more defensive and seem to lack confidence.

Back a while, they certainly had the confidence to both engage with posters and explain the reasoning behind decisions rather than “ does not adhere to rules” which in itself is, as we are all aware not always true.

Of course it is not an easy job, and I suspect that the defensiveness has arisen as a result of the change in the way people interact now, which is much more divisive than it ever was previously.

I am sorry to see that once again posters have been banned without the chance for redemption or due consideration. The site is the poorer as a result of these sort of decisions.

Yes - regarding to disliking people. Of course no one likes everyone - that’s life!

But to report someone because you dislike them is a bit puerile imo.