Daily Mail to Buy Out The Telegraph?

JenniferEccles

I was delighted to hear this. My two favourite newspapers.
We buy proper printed newspapers which in my opinion is preferable to reading the online versions.

Absolutely agree. We read a newspaperfrom either end of the political divide. There is actually some very good journalism, both political and non-political in both the DT and the DM if people were not too prejudiced to realise it.

The problem with online news is that what news is put before us is refined and filtered to provide us with limited stories on subjects known to appeal to us.

Newspapers, any newspaper has over its pages articles and news on all sorts of subjects that I am superficially not interested in, but I will read an article because a sentence or phrase or headline catches my attention. I have even been found reading articles on the ssports pages, because something caught my eye.

I have always been wide ranging and as far as possible unprejudiced in what I read. If it is print I will read it. That is how it ought to be.

Thank you Casdon You have answered my question. Journalistic standards have dropped here in the US also. We used to take the Wall Street Journal; not any more.

Allira: "Do you mean the Guardian and the Telegraph? Both have been sued but so has the Daily Mail. In fact, it is doubtful that there is any UK newspaper which has not been sued.".

Being sued in itself is not a particular measure of good journalism and edirotiral standards. It depends on the grounds that the newspaper was sued and whether the case was upheld, or settled by the newspaper specifically (thereby some inference the media company may have lost the case if it came to court).

For example recently Noel Clark sued the Guardian for libel and defamation. He claimed the Guardian's story, that he was sexually inappropriate towards various women, was without foundation and a conspiracy against him. He lost his claim. The Guardian had put forward a case that their investigation into Clark was in the public interest, deeply researched, reporters had worked diligently and was factually correct. The judge found in the Guardian's favour and that it was a reasonable belief the published story was in the public favour...

No, journalistic standards definitely have declined.
This article from The New European is worth reading.
www.thenewworld.co.uk/the-decline-and-fall-of-the-daily-telegraph/

We used to take the Telegraph when we lived in England, but that is 35 years ago now. Is it not the paper I remember then?

Popularity is not the same as a good newspaper. I chip in for the Guardian, its makes it free online for all, and its true that nowadays its sobered up on the fringe reporting and when there is a major ongoing news issue it gives a running report.

petra

The Daily Mail must be doing something right. It has the largest sale of any other newspaper, whereas the Guardian is always asking for money.

But not amongst Gransnetters, it would seem 😂

Ps Disclaimer: I don't buy it but then, I don't buy any newspaper.

They deserve each other.

Emeraldforest

Both rather nasty libellous rags, the Telegraph somewhat posher than the other!

Do you mean the Guardian and the Telegraph?

Both have been sued but so has the Daily Mail.

In fact, it is doubtful that there is any UK newspaper which has not been sued.

Jockytaff

windmill1

The news is this is a realistic possibility, but depends on various approvals.

Birds of a feather stick together, I suppose.

The Daily Torygraph & the Daily Fail. A marriage made in heaven. Two terrible rags that think Brittania still rules the waves.

But I presume they can spell Britannia 🤔

Jackiest

I have never thought of the Daily Mail as a newspaper.

No. It is a comic.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

The country needs a serious right wing newspaper for balance. The Daily Mail & The Telegraph (yes, I subscribe) versus The Guardian and The mirror.

I agree that there is too much celeb tittle tattle these days, but that's sadly the world we live in.

I would say give Rothermere a chance, at least it stays British - sort of.

Really ?!

Magenta8

I have noticed how the DT has gone down hill. Years ago it used to be an intelligent right wing paper. Now it is just as trashy and bigoted as all the other 'right minded' newspapers.

The Guardian on the other hand has got better and is not as bang the drum left wing as it used to be.

Absolutely.

Grantanow

A race to the bottom methinks.

Indeed.

Better the Daily Mail than Red bird buying the Telegraph. I subscribe to a paper copy of the D Tel. I'm almost a life-long reader of it because my father took it. He always did the Quick Crossword and wouldn't write in any answer until I'd spelt it correctly so I always did well in spelling tests at school! I now do the cryptic crossword but not every day. I also have a digital subscription to The Times.

keepingquiet

They are both sensationalistic rags- let them do what they want I for one couldn't care less.

Me too. I wouldn't touch either of them with a bargepole

Some of the best serious news coverage in my opinion is from Reuters, but they don’t cover gossip stories, only news.

MollyNew

Does anyone know of a moderate newspaper which offers centrist views?

I actually read the main stories on line in the The Telegraph and the Guardian every day in an attempt to get both sides of a story. Amazing the different emphasis/ interpretation on the same 'facts'. No wonder I'm confused.

The Guardian is run by The Scot Trust Ltd- the sole shareholder of Guardian media company. It does not pay out to shareholders therefore reinvests any profits into sustaining its financial and editorial independence and protecting it from commercial or political interference. Similar to the Independent Newspaper.

Many of the others are part of large media groups with different ownership structures, e.g. Rupert Murdoch News corporation etc. These are more profit driven and editorially more politically influenced.

windmill1

The news is this is a realistic possibility, but depends on various approvals.

Birds of a feather stick together, I suppose.

The Daily Torygraph & the Daily Fail. A marriage made in heaven. Two terrible rags that think Brittania still rules the waves.

The Daily Mail must be doing something right. It has the largest sale of any other newspaper, whereas the Guardian is always asking for money.

keepingquiet

They are both sensationalistic rags- let them do what they want I for one couldn't care less.

The Daily Mail does have some sensible columnists though imo.

Both rather nasty libellous rags, the Telegraph somewhat posher than the other!

For Molly - and anyone else wanting a less opinionated paper - try the 'i', and you should find that it publishes differing views on a range of topics, helps readers look at the options to decide for themselves?

For all those thinking that the DT will soon resemble the Mail, please, apply some commonsense? WHY would anyone pay a huge sum of money, and a buy a well-established and popular brand, then make drastic changes and risk seeing sales plummet?? WHY?

The newspaper industry has been in a state of flux for 20+ years (see how the circulation figs have dropped like an anchor?) so why risk upsetting a very expensive applecart?

It does NOT remotely follow that the publishers are on a mission to convert reeaders to THEIR preferred political ethos, and for evidence, kindly check out Reach PLC, which owns the Mirror AND the Express, quite different beliefs.

They are well aware that changing the Mirror to be 'Express2', or vice-versa, would be self-defeating, the readers of both do NOT want alternative viewpoints, they buy those offerings because they know it gives them what they want. It would be like buying, say, the 'KerryGold' company (other butters are available) and changing the product to resemble cheap marg??

I gather from longterm readers that the DT is greatly admired for its sports pages, (I'm told by far the best for those who do not want to be bombarded with tabloid tripe about which footballer or mgr said what?), also its review columns and crossword.

A race to the bottom by right wing propaganda in print!