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Mr Trump Accuses Ukrainians of Not Being Grateful Enough.

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windmill1 Sun 23-Nov-25 19:12:58

He reckons he hasn't been shown enough gratitude for his peacemaking efforts. Efforts that, apparently, consist of Ukraine practically signing away a lot of land, slashing their armed forces to meet Putin's approval and giving up certain mineral rights to both the Russians and Americans.

And does Trump want Zelensky to lick his boots as well?

Wyllow3 Sun 23-Nov-25 19:20:39

Totally agree with you.

No guarantee Putin will stick to an agreement either. Trump self centred as ever.

Smileless2012 Sun 23-Nov-25 19:38:43

Well TBF he can his Nobel Peace Prize going down the pan grin.

Wyllow3 Sun 23-Nov-25 19:48:29

He doesn't like realising His Great Power is not as "Great" as he had imagined.

What self deluded fool could say what he promises here - yes, the actual speech where he said he's deliver in a day

www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=fcbfcae5e87b23b9&rls=en&sxsrf=AE3TifNScb-G3IkHDVyObs-_UsZp2G1uZQ:1763927213021&q=trump+promises+peace+in+ukraine+and+gaza+in+24+hours&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiqj8T3hImRAxV1RkEAHTsnAM8Q7xYoAHoECA0QAQ&biw=1129&bih=609&dpr=2#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:cd4f0fc3,vid:jcNzoONhrmE,st:0

imaround Sun 23-Nov-25 20:03:57

The good news is, the cracks are growing and MAGA is starting to go after each other publicly.

Can't wait for them to fall into the hole they created. smile

Aveline Sun 23-Nov-25 20:05:06

angryangryangry

keepingquiet Sun 23-Nov-25 20:39:16

The ruder Trumpis to Zelensky- the more people see Trump for what he is. Nothing there to see really...

Calendargirl Sun 23-Nov-25 21:15:31

He talks as though Russia has nothing to do with causing the war.

Putin must be laughing his socks off.

Wyllow3 Sun 23-Nov-25 21:18:39

imaround

The good news is, the cracks are growing and MAGA is starting to go after each other publicly.

Can't wait for them to fall into the hole they created. smile

👍 whats particularly on your mind on that one.

Witzend Sun 23-Nov-25 21:20:14

IMO Trump admires Putin - he’s the sort of dictator he himself would love to be.
(I do sometimes wonder whether he’s a reincarnation of Henry VIII….)

NanKate Sun 23-Nov-25 21:27:33

Trump is now delusional. His staff have to agree with him or they are TOAST😏

He is a laughing stock and Idiot of the greatest proportion.

ronib Sun 23-Nov-25 21:31:51

Seems a bit premature for Ukrainians to give thanks to Trump. Peace seems a long way off? The EU doesn’t seem on board with Trump’s peace deal either. It’s all a bit depressing…..

Smileless2012 Sun 23-Nov-25 22:24:14

He may admire Putin Witzend but I think there's more to it than that.

Mollygo Sun 23-Nov-25 22:31:39

Gratitude for an arrangement that gives Putin what he wants, with no guarantee that he would keep his side of the arrangement?
What planet does Trump live on?

Jennerdysphoria Sun 23-Nov-25 23:02:29

I'm looking forward to the memoirs of people who are currently having to pussy-foot around Trump. And I hope he reads them.

nanna8 Sun 23-Nov-25 23:11:03

I would assume Putin and Trump are mates and have been for years but they can’t admit it. What a mess - Zelensky damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. The rest of Europe look on and sit back. Zelensky is becoming unpopular at home apparently which is another issue.

henetha Sun 23-Nov-25 23:27:34

Zelensky has a terrible decision to make with this rotten peace plan.
It makes my blood boil the way Trump
persistently blames Ukraine for the war. Why can't, or won't, he see the truth. Putin must be laughing his socks off.

Homestead62 Mon 24-Nov-25 00:01:45

I'm seriously wondering what on earth is going on. Something definitely isn't right with all this.

NotSpaghetti Mon 24-Nov-25 00:56:54

The peace plan was apparently really a Russian "wish list"

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the 28-point document was "essentially the wish list of the Russians" and was created in Russia, not America.
He later denied saying this but several people seem to have heard him.

www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-senators-say-rubio-denied-that-ukraine-russia-peace-plan-originated-from-u-s/?hl=en-GB#:~:text=U.S.%20senators%20critical%20of%20President,not%20the%20actual%20U.S.%20plan.

nanna8 Mon 24-Nov-25 01:32:03

Homestead62

I'm seriously wondering what on earth is going on. Something definitely isn't right with all this.

I think you are right. The smell of fish is overpowering.

Mamie Mon 24-Nov-25 03:31:53

nanna8

I would assume Putin and Trump are mates and have been for years but they can’t admit it. What a mess - Zelensky damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. The rest of Europe look on and sit back. Zelensky is becoming unpopular at home apparently which is another issue.

www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2025/11/23/european-countries-propose-ukraine-peace-plan-radically-different-to-trumps/

mum2three Mon 24-Nov-25 05:29:55

I'm a supporter of Trump but I think he's wrong on this issue. Putin is being rewarded for invading another country. It will encourage him to do the same thing again.
Imagine if this was children fighting over a toy.One child wants what another has and thinks he has the right to take it. How would you deal with it?

RosesandLilac Mon 24-Nov-25 06:33:42

It’s only going to be a matter of time before Putin marches back into Ukraine and finishes the job. Poor Ukraine, it’ll be like a never ending nightmare for years to come.
Trump’s just showing how delusional and stupid he really is, toadying up to his pal Putin who’s laughing all the way to the bank.
I still struggle to understand how anyone could have voted for Trump, and Starmer is looking increasingly desperate with his awestruck behaviour towards the oaf.

Maremia Mon 24-Nov-25 06:58:00

Meanwhile, Russian ships invade our maritime regions, drop surveillance devices near to our underwater cables.
Ukraine is actually a 'front line' for Europe. Trump's USA is not acting as an ally.

Wyllow3 Mon 24-Nov-25 07:07:24

Mmm, I rather think Starmer is quite cunning on this, he's done well internationally, and to appear friendly is part of the job - lets see the results?