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Venezuela air attack

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Grandmabatty Sat 03-Jan-26 08:35:31

US have attacked Venezuela with missiles. This is unforgivable

Maremia Sat 03-Jan-26 14:48:44

And, in our future democratic elections, we don't want foreign money and interference.

Maremia Sat 03-Jan-26 14:51:48

There is a Thread just now about GB News and Trump interference.

mokryna Sat 03-Jan-26 14:54:49

nanna8

The similarities with Putin are increasing every day. No wonder they ‘get’ each other.

That’s exactly how I feel. They must be comparing notes, although Trump will be saying, see this is how it’s done in a few hours.

Opal Sat 03-Jan-26 15:11:12

Chocolatelovinggran

Opal, we in Britain had the opportunity to effect a " regime change", recently, and we are due another in a few years. We call them elections.

Really? Well, who'd have known .....

Yes, and the next election can't come soon enough. 18 months in power, and their election pledges shot to pieces. "Deliver economic stability" - failed. "Smash the gangs" - failed. And to top it all, they've paid compensation to a terrorist because his "human rights" were infringed. Anyone who voted in Labour headed up by a human rights lawyer should have known what his priorities would be. Hang your heads in shame.

Maremia Sat 03-Jan-26 15:19:31

Nope, no shame in taking part in a democratic election.
And if I am still a terrestrial, entity, will take part in the next one.

ronib Sat 03-Jan-26 15:30:03

I would guess that a world without the current Venezuelan president has to be an improvement.

Maremia Sat 03-Jan-26 15:37:56

You think he is dead?

AGAA4 Sat 03-Jan-26 15:38:11

The only reason for this attack is that Trump wants the oil. After seizing an oil tanker Trump was asked what would happen to the oil
His reply was I assume we will keep it.
Trump's allegations about Venezuela and drugs doesn't stack up.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-Jan-26 15:38:58

ronib

I would guess that a world without the current Venezuelan president has to be an improvement.

So it might be - but that is within no one’s call but the people of Venezuela

butterandjam Sat 03-Jan-26 15:41:16

Whitewavemark2

Following on from their illegal attacks on boats on the high seas, where they have killed all souls on board.

The USA is out of control.

Trumps crazed outburst at New Year was surely proof he's completely lost the plot. Now this :-(

USA urgently needs regime change.

ronib Sat 03-Jan-26 15:43:17

The people are often the last ones to be asked. Gaddafi? Sadam Hussein?

Grandmabatty Sat 03-Jan-26 15:44:28

Apparently The Venezuelan president will be put on trial in USA, according to MSM. It may be a good thing for Venezuelans to get rid of him, but it isn't USA's right to do this.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 03-Jan-26 15:46:50

Whether we like it or not, POTUS Trump was democratically elected, it is not for us to call for him to be removed from office.

The citizens of the USA have their vote in the mid-term elections, let’s see the outcome.

How would you feel if foreign citizens were attacking our PM and making accusations of dementia and worse?

(I am not a fan of this POTUS by the way)

Grandmabatty Sat 03-Jan-26 15:48:58

Trump has now said USA will be strongly involved in the Venezuelan oil industry reported by The Guardian.
There's a big surprise 🙄

ronib Sat 03-Jan-26 15:53:11

So can someone explain why Venezuela wasn’t exploiting its oil reserves before now? Does it not want extreme wealth?

AGAA4 Sat 03-Jan-26 16:00:05

ronib

So can someone explain why Venezuela wasn’t exploiting its oil reserves before now? Does it not want extreme wealth?

Venezuelan oil is heavy crude and very expensive to extract. That and political problems has caused the industry to be unable to take advantage of all the oil it has.

Grandmabatty Sat 03-Jan-26 16:03:05

My son said that when he was in Venezuela the air stank of fuel everywhere you went. When it's your birthday, you get free fuel. However it's a very unstable country, ruled by the military and corruption is rife.

Mamie Sat 03-Jan-26 16:10:45

For those who are interested in an informed discussion, there is a "The Rest is Politics" special on YouTube at 1730 UK time. I have already learnt a lot about Trump, Venezuela, Machado and Maduro from previous podcasts.

Grandmabatty Sat 03-Jan-26 16:17:03

Thank you Mamie

butterandjam Sat 03-Jan-26 16:25:46

ronib

I would guess that a world without the current Venezuelan president has to be an improvement.

Plenty of people , worldwide and in USA, think a world without current POTUS in power, will be an improvement.

But you surely don't think it would be acceptable for Kim Jong Un (or any other leader) to remove Trump from power ?

fancythat Sat 03-Jan-26 16:26:13

Taken from the DM.

@Venezuelans around the world are celebrating the capture of President Nicolas Maduro after he was flown out of the country and indicted on drugs charges in the United States.

More than eight million citizens have fled Venezuela since 2014 due to rampant violence, inflation, gang warfare and shortages of food and medicine.

As a result, the country has been left facing one of the largest displacement crises in the world, according to the United Nations.

So while Maduro's capture sent shockwaves around the world, jubilant Venezuelans spilled out onto the streets today to welcome the news with singing and dancing.

Many were pictured holding both US and Venezuelan flags in a gesture to Donald Trump, who ordered the special forces operation to capture Maduro.

One person celebrating in Chile said: 'I've come to celebrate because the dictatorship has fallen, Maduro's drug trafficking has fallen, and Nicolas Maduro and Diosdado Cabello.

'We are free, we are all happy that the dictatorship has fallen and that we have a free country.'

Another in Doral, Florida, added: 'Today, justice is being served. Justice is being served for all the Venezuelans who left our country to demonstrate who we are. @

Perhaps most of us were not aware how bad it was for Venezualans?

MollyNew Sat 03-Jan-26 16:31:40

The Donald told Fox news today that American companies will be heavily involved in rebuilding Venezuela's oil infrastructure. That's what it's really all about - oil, under the guise of drug importation into the USA.

David49 Sat 03-Jan-26 16:35:04

Venezuelans will be better off without Maduro he has persecuted his own people for too long.. It was Syria 2 weeks ago, Nigeria last week, maybe Iran next week, he aims to rid the world of terrorists and tyrants.

He’s doing it because he can, it’s what his Navy and Air Force is good at - bullying those who cannot hit back.

Allira Sat 03-Jan-26 16:36:39

Perhaps most of us were not aware how bad it was for Venezualans?

Yes, it has been dreadful under the dictator Maduro and many Venezuelans have fled to other S American countries and to the US.
Perhaps Trump was becoming unconcerned about the number of immigrants fleeing there?

I'm not sure that such direct involvement is a good thing but this has happened in other countries and carried out by other leaders. Sometimes successful, but quite often causing more chaos and a vacuum which is filled by an even worse regime.

Allira Sat 03-Jan-26 16:37:26

unconcerned
concerned

Autocorrect, not my word.