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POTUS Trump, stated on Air Force One over night, ^We need Greenland^

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GrannyGravy13 Mon 05-Jan-26 08:24:08

He went on to say that Greenland is surrounded by Russian and Chinese War Ships, and that Greenland and Denmark are not willing to do anything about it.

We (USA) need Greenland for our security

Up till now I have thought it was just bluster could he be on a roll of hostile takeovers?

Maremia Mon 05-Jan-26 08:29:37

It is all so worrying. He already has troops in Greenland.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 05-Jan-26 08:32:58

The is where NATO will be really tested. If it lets us down than frankly we are as good as doomed, because Putin will be noting every move.

Wyllow3 Mon 05-Jan-26 08:34:07

He really is going for his "threaten and disrupt" all over the place now, isnt he?
On the current Trump thread yesterday we looked at the appointment of an envoy and the wife of that envoy tweeting "soon" on a map of Greenland.

It could still be bluster but all need to be on the alert. Last year he used tariffs to play around with world powers, is this year going to be invasion threats?

A hostile takeover wound either mean bombing or US boots on the ground. How else could he "take" Greenland?

When he took office he promised no more US boots on the ground anywhere else, but at the moment he's horrifyingly toddlerish about issuing threats.

foxie48 Mon 05-Jan-26 08:38:30

Yes, I think it's possible. It also would explain Trump's reluctance to deal effectively with Russia 's invasion of Ukraine, wouldn't it? It's become a very scary world. I wouldn't be at all surprised if China takes advantage of what's happening and marches into Taiwan. Bloody Trump is affecting the balance of power very negatively.

petra Mon 05-Jan-26 08:45:42

Ive just looked on my shipping location app.
Nothing showing.
That could be that tgey have all turned off their transponders or, Trump is talking out of his arse.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 05-Jan-26 08:47:01

petra

Ive just looked on my shipping location app.
Nothing showing.
That could be that tgey have all turned off their transponders or, Trump is talking out of his arse.

Definitely the second 🤬🤬🤬

Maremia Mon 05-Jan-26 09:54:08

Does Trump have enough 'manpower' to carry out all of these invasions?

petra Mon 05-Jan-26 09:55:58

Maremia

Does Trump have enough 'manpower' to carry out all of these invasions?

In 2 words, unfortunately, yes.

Sarnia Mon 05-Jan-26 10:04:17

He's going ga-ga which makes him a dangerous man.

Allira Mon 05-Jan-26 10:14:31

petra

Ive just looked on my shipping location app.
Nothing showing.
That could be that tgey have all turned off their transponders or, Trump is talking out of his arse.

Has he just noticed that Russia has warships and submarines? Or did someone alert him to the fact?

That's what ships do, sail the seven seas. His and ours do the same.

Casdon Mon 05-Jan-26 12:20:53

I’d be very worried if I were serving in the US militia, because he’s sounding off in all directions, and they cannot fight multiple ‘enemies’ at the same time as he appears to expect. The might of any one country is less than the combined might of others, and he would do very well not to upset China and Russia any more than he has done already.

Oreo Mon 05-Jan-26 12:29:17

It will only be achieved with diplomacy ( Greenland) and in the end Denmark may well give in to what the US want, they already have a big military presence there.

flump Mon 05-Jan-26 14:22:00

Just watched this - Greenland? Mistake of a Lifetime by MilitaryRated. It's interesting.

flump Mon 05-Jan-26 14:23:20

That should have 'Invading' before Greenland but for some reason didn't appear.

BlessedArt Mon 05-Jan-26 14:28:29

Trump isn’t hiding, lying, or being coy about attacking and taking over countries for their resources. I now fully expect a Greenland operation if he remains president. Most of US congress is too cowardly to challenge him, and the rest openly support him. We are entering a new age of savage, modern colonialism.

Casdon Mon 05-Jan-26 14:36:38

So far he has warned five other countries of his intentions if they do not comply with his wishes, since the actions in Venezuela, which he claims the USA is now in charge of. He cannot take them all on, the US just does not have the military might. Not to mention which of the countries would have significant backing to resist US actions.
edition.cnn.com/2026/01/05/world/greenland-cuba-iran-trump-warning-intl

Maremia Mon 05-Jan-26 14:41:34

Could it be the same game play/tactic he uses when he threatens to sue? Some are immediately intimidated and pay up/comply.
Who recently, has he sued and won the case?
Bluff? Hope so.

Fallingstar Mon 05-Jan-26 14:52:49

Scary stuff, Trump is going rogue and has the might of a super power behind him.
Are we to understand, in this case, that in the US there are no means to rein the president in when acts of aggression that could destabilise whole regions are committed seemingly without any prior warning to allies?
Or are all agencies in the US in favour of such adventuring or too scared to stand up to Trump?
Let’s hope there is a bit more in the way of reining him in if he ever gets near that nuclear button.

Maremia Mon 05-Jan-26 14:57:33

Agree with that Fallingstar, but at the same time, I suspect he is not actually the one calling the shots.

butterandjam Mon 05-Jan-26 15:11:44

petra

Ive just looked on my shipping location app.
Nothing showing.
That could be that tgey have all turned off their transponders or, Trump is talking out of his arse.

or, it's frozen solid for winter, currently impassible to shipping.

But with climate change and global warming, it;s predicted that by next century, the arctic ocean may be open water in winter....

Fallingstar Mon 05-Jan-26 15:13:08

Maremia

Agree with that Fallingstar, but at the same time, I suspect he is not actually the one calling the shots.

You could be right there. Trump has surrounded himself with some very dangerous individuals.

LemonJam Mon 05-Jan-26 15:28:36

There is Congress domestically which can test Trump's limits of executive power. There have been calls to bring the House of Representatives into session ( on Christmas break) to "rein in the out of control president".

It remains to be seen how many republicans will in support of Trump compared to Democrats in Congress.

Plus the American voting public. Will they see Trump's action as "saving their lives" or military action costing too much whilst access to healthcare is becoming increasingly more expensive, prices in the shops are rising etc? Will they be worried about US reputation abroad? All yet to play out.

AGAA4 Mon 05-Jan-26 15:42:09

At least Starmer has defied Trump on the Greenland issue. He has said only Greenland and Denmark can decide their future.
He has been less assertive about Venezuela although other politicians have condemned Trump's attack.

Syracute Mon 05-Jan-26 15:43:48

Fallingstar

Scary stuff, Trump is going rogue and has the might of a super power behind him.
Are we to understand, in this case, that in the US there are no means to rein the president in when acts of aggression that could destabilise whole regions are committed seemingly without any prior warning to allies?
Or are all agencies in the US in favour of such adventuring or too scared to stand up to Trump?
Let’s hope there is a bit more in the way of reining him in if he ever gets near that nuclear button.

There definitely ways to reign in a wayward president. Congress will have to act as he already has broken constitutional law. I think you will find that the majority of Americans are not going to be supportive of overt meddling and put their foot down ….hopefully soon.