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POTUS Trump, stated on Air Force One over night, ^We need Greenland^

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GrannyGravy13 Mon 05-Jan-26 08:24:08

He went on to say that Greenland is surrounded by Russian and Chinese War Ships, and that Greenland and Denmark are not willing to do anything about it.

We (USA) need Greenland for our security

Up till now I have thought it was just bluster could he be on a roll of hostile takeovers?

imaround Mon 05-Jan-26 15:47:23

IMO, while we all worry about Greenland, I think Cuba is next.

And for anyone who thinks Congress is going to stop him, don't hold your breath. The only way to stop him is to impeach him, and the GOP won't do that.

I pray I am wrong.

keepingquiet Mon 05-Jan-26 15:52:19

There is so much worse to come...Trump's action has given rogue states carte blanch to go in and invade any country they fancy.

We need to get real that with this dangerous man in power almost anything could happen...

Maremia Mon 05-Jan-26 16:09:52

Stephen Miller could be one of the Puppet Masters.

imaround Mon 05-Jan-26 16:18:25

He is the puppet master Maremia. Always has been.

This is Heritage Foundation/Project 2025 100%

madeleine45 Mon 05-Jan-26 16:51:08

I understand that if someone is mentally ill and is not aware of their situation they can be placed in a hospital for their own good and the good of the rest of the population. Hopefully some of the doctors in the USA will see that Trumps attitude and behaviour thinking he can take over countries just as it pleases him, and use armed force to do so, constitutes a clear case of delusion and a misinformed sense of his own importance in the world. The sooner someone acts the safer the world will become!

imaround Mon 05-Jan-26 16:56:44

No one will do it though. The GOP still has enough members to shield him. He is exactly what they want, a slightly unhinged, yet popular man to lead the cult.

Until the GOP revolts, or until midterms, we are stuck with this maniac.

fancythat Mon 05-Jan-26 17:14:03

Casdon

I’d be very worried if I were serving in the US militia, because he’s sounding off in all directions, and they cannot fight multiple ‘enemies’ at the same time as he appears to expect. The might of any one country is less than the combined might of others, and he would do very well not to upset China and Russia any more than he has done already.

The US is not small though The U.S. military ranks highly in overall strength and spending, but in terms of sheer active personnel, it's behind China and India, typically ranking third or fourth globally for manpower, while its defense budget is the world's largest by far, exceeding the next ten countries combined. The U.S. excels in technological superiority and global reach, maintaining numerous bases worldwide, but focuses more on advanced capabilities than massive troop numbers compared to countries like China, India, and Russia

fancythat Mon 05-Jan-26 17:14:37

The first sentence is mine.

I meant to separate that out from the quote

LemonJam Mon 05-Jan-26 17:20:00

Not forgetting that Trump may now be able to access Venezuela's weaponry arsenal and military support to add to his own- if that is one of his goals. That is something Russia is currently considering.

Putin and Maduro have long been allies and Putin has extended millions of dollars of loans to Venezuela to build capacity accordingly. Putin won't be happy if he doesn't get his loans repaid. Plus Putin will not be happy at all if Trump gets his hands on Venezuela's oil. It threatens the price of oil globally and oil is mainly funding Putin's special operations.

Fallingstar Mon 05-Jan-26 17:33:08

So much that could go wrong in this situation. China demanding Trump releases Maduro, Putin angry about Venezuela no longer being his playground, dangerous left wing militias in Columbia who could invade Venezuela and fight using guerilla tactics on the ground…..
I predict one unholy mess but hope I am wrong for ordinary Venezuelans sakes.

Wyllow3 Mon 05-Jan-26 17:58:06

fancythat

The first sentence is mine.

I meant to separate that out from the quote

A quote with information given needs " " and web ref, or how can we read/check the whole thing?

Wyllow3 Mon 05-Jan-26 18:00:38

Good point about Putin, I hadn't got that far in my reading and thinking.

Wyllow3 Mon 05-Jan-26 18:01:20

Wonder if Trump has...😶

Casdon Mon 05-Jan-26 18:02:32

fancythat

Casdon

I’d be very worried if I were serving in the US militia, because he’s sounding off in all directions, and they cannot fight multiple ‘enemies’ at the same time as he appears to expect. The might of any one country is less than the combined might of others, and he would do very well not to upset China and Russia any more than he has done already.

The US is not small though The U.S. military ranks highly in overall strength and spending, but in terms of sheer active personnel, it's behind China and India, typically ranking third or fourth globally for manpower, while its defense budget is the world's largest by far, exceeding the next ten countries combined. The U.S. excels in technological superiority and global reach, maintaining numerous bases worldwide, but focuses more on advanced capabilities than massive troop numbers compared to countries like China, India, and Russia

That wasn’t my point though. Fighting on multiple fronts as the US would be doing if all Trump’s ambitions were to be met disperses the forces and the expertise, which reduces the chance of victory. I can’t think of any other nation which pursues that strategy.

fancythat Mon 05-Jan-26 21:24:50

Do you need as much of anything though, if more reliant on technology, global bases and finance, was my point

Casdon Mon 05-Jan-26 21:35:01

Yes, because all the resources and expertise are finite. If you are operating on multiple fronts, with different regimes, the expertise is diluted, and much harder for the centre to control.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 05-Jan-26 21:52:35

So far since Venezuela I’ve heard mentioned

Iran, Cuba, Columbia, Greenland, and poor old Canada plus I think Panama.

The USA can’t stretch to that extent!

If Trump was now pursuing a democratic government in Venezuela it would not look so bad, and it is quite possible as there is a opposition ready to go which would almost certainly be voted in, but atm Trump seems content to work with a hard line socialist government who will do nothing to improve democracy or the situation for the people, but simply (Trumps hopes) do his bidding. This is not a legitimate nor moral position for the USA.

petra Mon 05-Jan-26 22:26:12

Let’s not forget the uk jumped into bed with the CIA to oust the then ruler of Iran and put the shah in power.
Operation Ajax.

www.britannica.com/event/1953-coup-in-

petra Mon 05-Jan-26 22:27:59

Let’s try again with that link.
www.britannica.com/event/1953-coup-in-Iran

Oreo Mon 05-Jan-26 22:30:44

I wish the US would oust the present rulers of Iran, most people there would be celebrating if they did.

Cossy Mon 05-Jan-26 22:54:33

foxie48

Yes, I think it's possible. It also would explain Trump's reluctance to deal effectively with Russia 's invasion of Ukraine, wouldn't it? It's become a very scary world. I wouldn't be at all surprised if China takes advantage of what's happening and marches into Taiwan. Bloody Trump is affecting the balance of power very negatively.

Trump certainly is!

Cossy Mon 05-Jan-26 22:58:48

Oreo

I wish the US would oust the present rulers of Iran, most people there would be celebrating if they did.

Really? Then why not the Taliban in Afghanistan? Oh yes, USA and UK started this and then just dumped it!

Where’s the peace Trump promised within a week in Gaza and Ukraine?

What about many countries in Africa?

Putin? China? The list is endless but of course Trump only wishes to “interfere” where there is a gain for him. IMO he doesn’t give two figs about most of his own people, let alone the citizens of other countries.

Oreo Mon 05-Jan-26 23:05:21

Yes I do think really they would be delighted in Iran, apart from the mullahs and the thought and headscarf police of course.
Economically things are very bad there and nobody especially women can step out of line, their lives are restricted.
A more liberal regime that was better to its own people and stopped funding terrorism would be great.

Cossy Tue 06-Jan-26 09:00:29

Casdon

I’d be very worried if I were serving in the US militia, because he’s sounding off in all directions, and they cannot fight multiple ‘enemies’ at the same time as he appears to expect. The might of any one country is less than the combined might of others, and he would do very well not to upset China and Russia any more than he has done already.

I agree! It’s a blooming awful and dangerous situation.

Why, oh why, are not his own people and world leaders telling him that just because he wants something it doesn’t justify him simply attempting to take it?

We tell this to our toddlers!

Cossy Tue 06-Jan-26 09:02:58

Oreo

Yes I do think really they would be delighted in Iran, apart from the mullahs and the thought and headscarf police of course.
Economically things are very bad there and nobody especially women can step out of line, their lives are restricted.
A more liberal regime that was better to its own people and stopped funding terrorism would be great.

I agree with everything you say, in principle, except for Trump’s involvement and the fear of a WW3 situation.