POTUS Trump, stated on Air Force One over night, ^We need Greenland^

I wish the US would oust the present rulers of Iran, most people there would be celebrating if they did.

Let’s try again with that link.
www.britannica.com/event/1953-coup-in-Iran

Let’s not forget the uk jumped into bed with the CIA to oust the then ruler of Iran and put the shah in power.
Operation Ajax.

www.britannica.com/event/1953-coup-in-

So far since Venezuela I’ve heard mentioned

Iran, Cuba, Columbia, Greenland, and poor old Canada plus I think Panama.

The USA can’t stretch to that extent!

If Trump was now pursuing a democratic government in Venezuela it would not look so bad, and it is quite possible as there is a opposition ready to go which would almost certainly be voted in, but atm Trump seems content to work with a hard line socialist government who will do nothing to improve democracy or the situation for the people, but simply (Trumps hopes) do his bidding. This is not a legitimate nor moral position for the USA.

Yes, because all the resources and expertise are finite. If you are operating on multiple fronts, with different regimes, the expertise is diluted, and much harder for the centre to control.

Do you need as much of anything though, if more reliant on technology, global bases and finance, was my point

fancythat

Casdon

I’d be very worried if I were serving in the US militia, because he’s sounding off in all directions, and they cannot fight multiple ‘enemies’ at the same time as he appears to expect. The might of any one country is less than the combined might of others, and he would do very well not to upset China and Russia any more than he has done already.

The US is not small though The U.S. military ranks highly in overall strength and spending, but in terms of sheer active personnel, it's behind China and India, typically ranking third or fourth globally for manpower, while its defense budget is the world's largest by far, exceeding the next ten countries combined. The U.S. excels in technological superiority and global reach, maintaining numerous bases worldwide, but focuses more on advanced capabilities than massive troop numbers compared to countries like China, India, and Russia

That wasn’t my point though. Fighting on multiple fronts as the US would be doing if all Trump’s ambitions were to be met disperses the forces and the expertise, which reduces the chance of victory. I can’t think of any other nation which pursues that strategy.

Wonder if Trump has...😶

Good point about Putin, I hadn't got that far in my reading and thinking.

fancythat

The first sentence is mine.

I meant to separate that out from the quote

A quote with information given needs " " and web ref, or how can we read/check the whole thing?

So much that could go wrong in this situation. China demanding Trump releases Maduro, Putin angry about Venezuela no longer being his playground, dangerous left wing militias in Columbia who could invade Venezuela and fight using guerilla tactics on the ground…..
I predict one unholy mess but hope I am wrong for ordinary Venezuelans sakes.

Not forgetting that Trump may now be able to access Venezuela's weaponry arsenal and military support to add to his own- if that is one of his goals. That is something Russia is currently considering.

Putin and Maduro have long been allies and Putin has extended millions of dollars of loans to Venezuela to build capacity accordingly. Putin won't be happy if he doesn't get his loans repaid. Plus Putin will not be happy at all if Trump gets his hands on Venezuela's oil. It threatens the price of oil globally and oil is mainly funding Putin's special operations.

The first sentence is mine.

I meant to separate that out from the quote

Casdon

I’d be very worried if I were serving in the US militia, because he’s sounding off in all directions, and they cannot fight multiple ‘enemies’ at the same time as he appears to expect. The might of any one country is less than the combined might of others, and he would do very well not to upset China and Russia any more than he has done already.

The US is not small though The U.S. military ranks highly in overall strength and spending, but in terms of sheer active personnel, it's behind China and India, typically ranking third or fourth globally for manpower, while its defense budget is the world's largest by far, exceeding the next ten countries combined. The U.S. excels in technological superiority and global reach, maintaining numerous bases worldwide, but focuses more on advanced capabilities than massive troop numbers compared to countries like China, India, and Russia

No one will do it though. The GOP still has enough members to shield him. He is exactly what they want, a slightly unhinged, yet popular man to lead the cult.

Until the GOP revolts, or until midterms, we are stuck with this maniac.

I understand that if someone is mentally ill and is not aware of their situation they can be placed in a hospital for their own good and the good of the rest of the population. Hopefully some of the doctors in the USA will see that Trumps attitude and behaviour thinking he can take over countries just as it pleases him, and use armed force to do so, constitutes a clear case of delusion and a misinformed sense of his own importance in the world. The sooner someone acts the safer the world will become!

He is the puppet master Maremia. Always has been.

This is Heritage Foundation/Project 2025 100%

Stephen Miller could be one of the Puppet Masters.

There is so much worse to come...Trump's action has given rogue states carte blanch to go in and invade any country they fancy.

We need to get real that with this dangerous man in power almost anything could happen...

IMO, while we all worry about Greenland, I think Cuba is next.

And for anyone who thinks Congress is going to stop him, don't hold your breath. The only way to stop him is to impeach him, and the GOP won't do that.

I pray I am wrong.

Fallingstar

Scary stuff, Trump is going rogue and has the might of a super power behind him.
Are we to understand, in this case, that in the US there are no means to rein the president in when acts of aggression that could destabilise whole regions are committed seemingly without any prior warning to allies?
Or are all agencies in the US in favour of such adventuring or too scared to stand up to Trump?
Let’s hope there is a bit more in the way of reining him in if he ever gets near that nuclear button.

There definitely ways to reign in a wayward president. Congress will have to act as he already has broken constitutional law. I think you will find that the majority of Americans are not going to be supportive of overt meddling and put their foot down ….hopefully soon.

At least Starmer has defied Trump on the Greenland issue. He has said only Greenland and Denmark can decide their future.
He has been less assertive about Venezuela although other politicians have condemned Trump's attack.

There is Congress domestically which can test Trump's limits of executive power. There have been calls to bring the House of Representatives into session ( on Christmas break) to "rein in the out of control president".

It remains to be seen how many republicans will in support of Trump compared to Democrats in Congress.

Plus the American voting public. Will they see Trump's action as "saving their lives" or military action costing too much whilst access to healthcare is becoming increasingly more expensive, prices in the shops are rising etc? Will they be worried about US reputation abroad? All yet to play out.

Maremia

Agree with that Fallingstar, but at the same time, I suspect he is not actually the one calling the shots.

You could be right there. Trump has surrounded himself with some very dangerous individuals.

petra

Ive just looked on my shipping location app.
Nothing showing.
That could be that tgey have all turned off their transponders or, Trump is talking out of his arse.

or, it's frozen solid for winter, currently impassible to shipping.

But with climate change and global warming, it;s predicted that by next century, the arctic ocean may be open water in winter....